# How To Handle 'PvE Only'

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 30, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418 "2022-10-30T15:16:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/305 "2022-11-02T01:18:08Z")

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Give a man enough rope and he will eventually trip over it? 🤣

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/306 "2022-11-02T01:18:11Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Does lucas still get a ping for a response even if he banned?

Dunno MB.

> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> > [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> > It’s not relevant, I have more than 100 active omega characters.
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> This is the post I was referring to.

Ah. Same stuff though. That one escaped my trawl. I can’t be bothered to be too diligent about it.

I’d cringe if I found myself about to type something like that.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/307 "2022-11-02T01:18:23Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> More noob vessels are lost to PvE than to PvP

last event any noob that jumped to a site was scramed and killed  
i almost was one of them

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/308 "2022-11-02T01:21:33Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> I’d cringe if I found myself about to type something like that.

I ■■■■ post more than I should but never claim to be more than I am.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/310 "2022-11-02T01:31:21Z")

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Just checking/curious. I like your new alt! 😃

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/311 "2022-11-02T01:31:28Z")

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> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#):
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> It’s not unfavourable to me…

Since when was the thread about what is favourable to you personally ? Every thread seems to get hijacked by by the cult of Lucas and his 100 alts, pretending to care sooooo much about noobs and what is good for the game…when really all we are getting is a 700 post diatribe about what would make _your_ game nicer, and the sheer pretence that this is a ‘discussion’ when you show zero sign of listening to what anyone else says.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/313 "2022-11-02T01:33:36Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Please leave me out of it.

As you wish good troll.

Edit; Flag incoming? 😆

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/314 "2022-11-02T01:46:47Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> As you wish good troll.

Isn’t his responsibility not to reply?

Why is he making you responsible for it?

Also, just to keep things on topic.

PvE is fun, but it’s more fun when you have to look over your shoulder knowing that at any time, lurking in the shadows, is a fleet of catalysts ready to pounce!

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/315 "2022-11-02T01:52:22Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Isn’t his responsibility not to reply?
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> Why is he making you responsible for it?

He’s milking it for all its worth. Really can’t say I blame him. All is fair in love and eve.

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> but it’s more fun when you have to look over your shoulder knowing that at any time, lurking in the shadows

Is me. 😏

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/316 "2022-11-02T02:05:01Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> He’s milking it for all its worth.

What exactly is he milking?

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/317 "2022-11-02T02:08:18Z")

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Hes hoping to garner enough support on the forums to change CCP’s mind (Not that they have one 🤣 ) in any way he possibly can. It’s not working…

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/318 "2022-11-02T02:25:47Z")

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> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#):
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> The real problem is economical, ingame Omega time tied to inflated PLEX

In one sense I haven’t felt too badly the inflation because I have been in eve a long time so I’ve accumulated much and have the skills to build pretty much everything, I bought/buy most material in bulk long ago so inflation for me hasn’t bothered me too much.

But on the other hand most newer player would definitely feel the pinch and thus more upset when losing stuff to others, then looking at the prospect of spending RL money when things are already tough for most people, I can see why so many people don’t see long term gain in this game and choose to cut losses.

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/319 "2022-11-02T02:34:57Z")

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Yeap, thats my point!

In the past a newcomer grindy player could grind that ISK doing generic stuff for 20-30 hours for the PLEX and maybe save some ISK. Now a newcomer would need +100 hours.

So that profile of player won’t stay in EVE anymore, this puts one more nail in EVE’s coffin.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/320 "2022-11-02T02:36:54Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> I bought/buy most material in bulk long ago so inflation for me hasn’t bothered me too much.

So did I but for different reasons.

Are we not part of eve’s problems?

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/321 "2022-11-02T02:39:12Z")

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Depends on who asks, I still buy stuff, still sub my account regardless, so kinda down the middle for me.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/322 "2022-11-02T02:56:01Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> Depends on who asks

Very true!

> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> still sub my account

Bought a drone instead. I find pissing off new departments of my government after all the usual ones more exciting than eve. More on that later.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/323 "2022-11-02T10:05:29Z")

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I dont actually usually advocate a “get with the program or get out stance”, but…

If people think EvE is a game you can succeed at, or compete in, or rise to the top at, they _should_ quit.

EvE is about surviving. Thats why its so unpleasant an experience to play.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/324 "2022-11-02T13:01:36Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> If people think EvE is a game you can succeed at, or compete in, or rise to the top at, they _should_ quit.
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> EvE is about surviving. Thats why its so unpleasant an experience to play.

I totally agree. And its about whether one survives by just sitting in dock or by going out and taking risk. People seem to want that ’ I am a survivor’ feeling without ever _doing_ anything that would have put their survival at risk. Medals merely for attending.

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**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/325 "2022-11-02T13:39:06Z")

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I’m no game design expert, but isn’t it a bad thing for a game to be an unpleasant experience to play?

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**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/326 "2022-11-02T13:42:44Z")

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Not if unpleasant=challenging.

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