# How To Handle 'PvE Only' **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 30, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418 "2022-10-30T15:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/467 "2022-11-04T14:07:20Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > They should totally be locked up in RL for all the psychological damage they do and the cyber bullying. These people are a menace to society in general. Please, I’m begging you not to. I am banned from every major MMO alive and defunct, I have a 88% ban rate in my Steam library and haven’t yet joined the 95-club. If I go to prison before then how will I ever gain the respect of fellow inmates? ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/468 "2022-11-04T14:07:49Z")
@Ax_l_Thorne You and your ilk are clearly the worst sort of people. Sullying this fine mining simulator with your pvp garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/469 "2022-11-04T14:13:15Z")
There is no hope for you. You are a horrible person, in RL, for playing videogames that have pvp elements. You fell for the bait. Like me. And now I have to serve multiple consecutive life time sentences in a federal prison for blowing up pixilated spacehips in a pvp centric space game with terrible submarine mechanics. I should have learned but like the deranged person I am, I became hooked on causing pixilated space misery and seeing pixilated space explosions. It got so bad that I would imagine myself wildly cackling ripping open pods and pouring the pod goo all over myself in sheer ecstasy. It was a real problem. They were right to lock me up. But because of prison enrichment programs I have to play 8 hrs of videogames a day and unfortunately the only option is EvE. Because I was banned from Fortnite, and Among Us. > [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > Sullying this fine mining simulator with your pvp garbage. See, I thought it was mining corpses from pods. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/470 "2022-11-04T14:28:35Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > And now I have to serve multiple consecutive life time sentences in a federal prison for blowing up pixilated spacehips in a pvp centric space game with terrible submarine mechanics. Oh man, you must get picked on a lot in the yard. I heard that one of the most elite OG BoB PVPers from 2003 is serving death sentences in 24 of the 50 US States, and has already been legally executed in 3 of them. He’s also serving life sentences in 25 of the remaining states (he tried for all 50 but Maine was the only one that thought his conduct acceptable) plus the territory of Puerto Rico. If it wasn’t for violating all those state laws he is also up for extradition to Australia, UK, France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Indonesia, China, Japan, and North Korea because of all their laws he violated too. They say as soon as his hands are on a console controller, that console’s IMEI is immediately banned from all servers, and that his tough-guy attitude is so neurotically extreme that when you propose a PVP nerf for a game anywhere within 500 meters of him that his amygdala hijacks his brain and he goes on a rampage of destruction that has left 3 of his last 5 prisons that he has been incarcared in completely levelled and other imnmates escaped – hence why there’s a bunch of tough guy PvPers playing EvE. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/471 "2022-11-04T14:53:10Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > They should totally be locked up in RL for all the psychological damage they do and the cyber bullying. These people are a menace to society in general. Whatever… wierdo ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/472 "2022-11-04T14:57:06Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > but if this place is any indication of what they are like in game it’s pretty bad. It’s a sample for sure. Probably the worst cases that are beyond help, like that poor Gix. Boy they weren’t kidding when they called EVE’s player base _toxic_. I think it’s worse than toxic but they haven’t invented that word yet. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/473 "2022-11-04T14:59:57Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > PvPers are the worst sort of players. Period. These nerf gankers/pve only threads have degenerated to a point where I am just no longer sure what is sarcasm and what is not. It feels surreal to hear people complain that pvpers are the worst sort of players in the forms form one of the last pvp oriented MMOs. The majority of MMOs are built around PvE. Why can’t EvE keep its PvP in all its glory? ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/474 "2022-11-04T15:08:38Z")
But it’s totally fine when those same PvP players _repeatedly_ insult other people and tell them to leave the game because they enjoy PvE and don’t want to be forced into PvP combat constantly? ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/475 "2022-11-04T15:10:10Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Why can’t EvE keep its PvP in all its glory? I’m sure it will. There’s nothing wrong with EVE’s PvP, there’s everything wrong for PvPers to grief other players who are engaged in PvE. EVE Online is a PvE game just as much as it is PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/476 "2022-11-04T15:16:29Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > And now I have to serve multiple consecutive life time sentences in a federal prison for blowing up pixilated spacehips in a pvp centric space game OMG…and I was once in the same system as you, totally unaware that beneath all the charm was a pixel murdering psychopath, wanted in 27 systems for both first and second degree pixel homicide and theft of loot. Officer Dibbley of Concord told me that you also committed the utterly heinous crime of attacking while the victims are watching Netflix…a crime **so** serious that the penalty can only be an additional 57 years of repeats of Teletubbies in a padded cell surrounded by Carebears…which might one day rehabilitate you back into being a normal member of space society. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/477 "2022-11-04T15:18:47Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > . . .there’s everything wrong for PvPers to grief other players who are engaged in PvE. > EVE Online is a PvE game just as much as it is PvP. That is PvP! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/478 "2022-11-04T15:19:05Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > That’s like buying marmite for 10 years, eating it every day and disliking it the whole time while crying about how marmite would be better if it tasted like peanut butter. To then demand, all the time, for incremental changes so it starts to taste more and more like peanut butter. This is already how I live my life. It is very cathartic. > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > If you don’t like marmite, don’t buy it. It’s really that simple. Don’t tell me what to eat, consumptionist griefer scumbag. > [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Are you saying that you would change nothing about EVE if you were given the power? If I were given such power, I would change EVE a _ **lot,** _ mainly by reverting it to its 2009 version, i.e. back when it had three times the players logged in. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/479 "2022-11-04T15:24:37Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > That is PvP! Yes I know, _everything_ is “PvP”. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/480 "2022-11-04T15:33:10Z")
@Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt Good thing I haven’t got ganked yet, there would’ve been 50 posts about my so-called salt for losing some pixels, lol. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/481 "2022-11-04T15:33:15Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Yes I know, _everything_ is “PvP”. In PvP centric games, pretty much. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/482 "2022-11-04T15:33:37Z")
Everything is PvP, but only when they need to make that claim to support their argument. If you suggest that highsec ganking should be removed then they claim that would remove _all PvP_ from highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/483 "2022-11-04T15:34:21Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > In PvP centric games, pretty much. I was gonna say: in PvP-obsessed heads. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/484 "2022-11-04T15:37:18Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Everything is PvP, but only when they need to make that claim to support their argument Of course. > [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > If you suggest that highsec ganking should be removed then they claim that would remove _all PvP_ from highsec I don’t want PvP to go anywhere, hisec or anywhere else. PvP isn’t the trouble, it’s PvPers that need to be restricted to certain targets and be made to forgo on other targets. Won’t happen anyway so who cares. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/485 "2022-11-04T15:40:35Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > I was gonna say: in PvP-obsessed heads. 🤣 You may be on to something here, in all honesty. As I mentioned earlier EvE is one of the few nonconsensual PvP centric MMOs out there. Naturally it attracts people who enjoy PvP, and don’t like the idea of removing it from the game, even in small ways. Most of what I do in the game is PvE. I don’t want the PvP in EvE to be diluted or bits of it removed. I like having to worry about gankers as I haul stuff from the trade hubs, or run mission in high sec. Nonconsensual PvP is why I started playing EvE in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/486 "2022-11-04T15:47:04Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > they enjoy PvE and don’t want to be forced into PvP combat constantly? The reality is that the two playstyles are not mutually exclusive. Many PvP enthusiasts have a PvE alt, or two. Oddly perhaps, I’ve not met many PvE enthusiasts who have a PvP alt, or two. There must be something about the Psychology of the players which allows PvP players to embrace PvE, but not the other way around. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418.md?page=25)