# How To Handle 'PvE Only' **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 30, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418 "2022-10-30T15:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/487 "2022-11-04T15:48:14Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > As I mentioned earlier EvE is one of the few nonconsensual PvP centric MMOs out there. Naturally it attracts people who enjoy PvP, and don’t like the idea of removing it from the game, even in small ways I seriously doubt they’ll mess with PvP at all and I still doubt, in spite of that \*looong" thread about three little sentences, that they’ll nerf ganking to any serious degree. Of course, the PvP-obsessed crowd will _REEEEE_ at any word they suspect has to do with their obsession and it’s entertaining for a while but it gets old quick. > [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Nonconsensual PvP is why I started playing EvE in the first place. So you play EVE _just_ to shoot at ships? I mean, if it brings you fun ok but there’s much more to EVE than just pew-pew. I started this game to see what it’s all about ( and no it’s not all about PvP ) and so far I find everything pretty interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/488 "2022-11-04T15:50:15Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > I seriously doubt they’ll mess with PvP at all and I still doubt, in spite of that \*looong" thread about three little sentences, that they’ll nerf ganking to any serious degree. They just did, officially: > **[Changes to Security Status & Abyssal Filaments | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/changes-to-security-status-and-abyssal-filaments)** > > New changes to outlaw behavior in high security space & activation of Abyssal filaments ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/489 "2022-11-04T15:54:46Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > They just did, officially No they didn’t, officially. Those changes will not nerf ganking or non-consensual PvP. It will still happen in Hisec like in allsecs. That is a very good thing they are introducing to the game and I agree with those changes **100%** ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/490 "2022-11-04T15:55:04Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Those changes will not nerf ganking How so? ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/491 "2022-11-04T15:56:58Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > How so? You’re not new to EVE or this forum. I’m sure you can figure out “how so”. I’m not getting in trouble in this forum with an unpleasant back and forth with you. But nice try. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/492 "2022-11-04T15:57:18Z")
So you don’t have an actual answer, got it. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/493 "2022-11-04T16:00:51Z")
And thanks for the link 😃 ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/494 "2022-11-04T16:15:43Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > So you play EVE _just_ to shoot at ships? I mean, if it brings you fun ok but there’s much more to EVE than just pew-pew. > I started this game to see what it’s all about ( and no it’s not all about PvP ) and so far I find everything pretty interesting Oddly enough, no, I don’t play EvE “just to shoot at ships”. Truth be told I don’t actively shoot at other players ships all that often. I only actively go looking for fights when I am playing on my FW character, and at least half the time when I am doing that I am more interested in plexing than hunting. I spend a lot of time hauling stuff around, playing the markets. I enjoy the gankers that are out there when I am doing this. Hauling would be a mindless drudgery that I would just auto-pilot if it was not for gankers and gate camps. But with gankers and gate camps it is just a little fun. Gankers and gate campers also are part of the friction that creates price differentials between markets. They make the game more exciting for me, and my trading playstyle, in part, is dependent on there being nonconsensual PvP that helps create price differentials. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/495 "2022-11-04T16:17:35Z")
If you ask me, CCP finally making highsec ganking have consequences may go a long way towards assuaging pure PvE’ers concerns…at least in theory. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/496 "2022-11-04T16:29:31Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > They make the game more exciting for me, and my trading playstyle, in part, is dependent on there being nonconsensual PvP that helps create price differentials. It is exciting to go around doing your thing knowing that someones will drop on you. I agree that PvP makes the game attractive. And the coming changes will make things even more interesting. Those who know how to EVE will adapt. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/497 "2022-11-04T16:40:43Z")
> [@Mr\_Beardsley](#): > > If you ask me, CCP finally making highsec ganking have consequences may go a long way towards assuaging pure PvE’ers concerns…at least in theory. I am curious, what kind of consequences do you want? High sec gankers already have their ship destroyed, and they take a security hit. What other consequences do you want to have happen? What are these concerns that theoretically need to be assuaged? ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/498 "2022-11-04T16:59:40Z")
I don’t really see the point. Most of the time I’ve spent playing this game, which is admittedly not a lot compared to die-hards, I’ve managed to avoid PvP easily enough. Sure I’ve run head first into a gate camp before, among other things, but these are just things you have to learn to avoid if you want to play the game. Work to mitigate your losses and resist the urge to bling out a ship. Don’t fly a target and you won’t be a target. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/499 "2022-11-04T17:07:43Z")
But what about the people who don’t want to learn or spend energy on making an effort to avoid? ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/500 "2022-11-04T17:14:28Z")
I guess everyone else who loves the PvP aspects of the game should just leave so they don’t inconvenience the lazy who can’t be bothered to learn how to play the game well. According to some that is the only way the game will survive! ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses\_Redmane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ulysses_redmane/32/410129_2.png) [@Ulysses\_Redmane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ulysses_Redmane)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/501 "2022-11-04T17:14:58Z")
I’m afraid their fate is to be impaled on one of the many spikes lining the game’s stone wall entry barrier. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/502 "2022-11-04T17:17:13Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/7/4/a74a0f9592243a5d7502d40b6e4bd97ddd2969ac.png) ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/503 "2022-11-04T17:24:35Z")
by the way, I am still thinking about your idea about changing the timers and making the gankers go suspect on highsec and then get concorded if they get the kill i think with a slight change this could go through what if a fleet of cats land on the target, then the target shoots two cats, those two won’t be concorded and they can engage freely with the Limited Engagement Timer but all the other cats who werent shot will still get concorded as they would anyway with the same concord response timers i dont think this would make a big change for cat blobs, but for solo gankers the difference could be big, if they lose a fight they can undock in something bigger. They could also have a bowhead around an pull something else from it ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/504 "2022-11-04T17:24:35Z")
> [@Ulysses\_Redmane](#): > > I’ve managed to avoid PvP easily enough. That in itself is pvp and that is all it takes, accepting that you play a pvp game and being ok with having to put in effort to compete. The people crying are the ones who refuse to do that, who are so self centered that they feel the game should adapt to _them_. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/505 "2022-11-04T17:25:00Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > There would have to be two separate severs. One for strictly PVE, and the server we have now. And I can guarantee you, it wouldn’t change anything. I have seen MMORPG that had separate PvE and PvP servers, but the carebears still came on to the PvP server and cried for nerfs, until it was watered down so much that PvP was just utter garbage. In EVE this would happen even more so, because the whole market is based on destruction. And if everyone is just a producer and no one a consumer of goods, things will be completely worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/506 "2022-11-04T17:26:29Z")
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