# How To Handle 'PvE Only' **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 30, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418 "2022-10-30T15:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/507 "2022-11-04T17:27:46Z")
NFT cat ears? ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/508 "2022-11-04T17:30:35Z")
I was also thinking about wars and I thought something that could annoy some scammy highsec CEOs: If their corp/alliance has taxes and has at least X amount of members altogether, then they should be wardecable KarmaFleet University university for example, would be wardecable Because there’s no reason having taxes other than offering structure services and ships if you are on highsec… but most of they just bank the taxes and buy PLEX for themselves while being protected by a non wardeacle front ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/509 "2022-11-04T17:31:25Z")
None of that will ever happen, and wars are going to get severely nerfed again in 2023/2024. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/510 "2022-11-04T17:36:53Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > I am curious, what kind of consequences do you want? High sec gankers already have their ship destroyed, and they take a security hit. What other consequences do you want to have happen? These are good: > **[Changes to Security Status & Abyssal Filaments | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/changes-to-security-status-and-abyssal-filaments)** > > New changes to outlaw behavior in high security space & activation of Abyssal filaments ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/511 "2022-11-04T17:46:18Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > These are good: But I’m willing to offer a sportsman’s bet that they’ll be ‘not far enough’ for the majority of anti-gank posters here. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/512 "2022-11-04T17:46:21Z")
Nothing is going to change. - Gankers will gank like it’s pre-citadel patch. Gank fleet will loiter in HS POS or deep safe to avoid Faction Navy. - Abyssal runner will run and never go suspect because CCP gave them an “out”. - True high-end abyssal runners will have their brick-tanked rescue Orca nearby in case gankers come into system. And maybe a defensive CONCORD pull throwaway _Omega_ alt from their charSlot2 or charSlot3. When they emerge from trace, they simply dock blingboat in Orca. In the end the game is still Orca-ganking online. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/513 "2022-11-04T17:48:26Z")
- Security status of -2.0 or below means they cannot tether in 1.0 systems. - Security status of -2.5 or below means they cannot tether in 0.9 systems. - Security status of -3.0 or below means they cannot tether in 0.8 systems. - Security status of -3.5 or below means they cannot tether in 0.7 systems. - Security status of -4.0 or below means they cannot tether in 0.6 systems. - Security status of -4.5 or below means they cannot tether in 0.5 systems. Touché! I was right, the tether would be tied to the security status of te pilot vs systems I prophesized this about that picture of a spreadsheet ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/514 "2022-11-04T17:50:09Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Nothing is going to change. It already has. Many gankers in chats have said that they won’t be continuing their operations because the multi-boxing/financial requirements to continue to do so would now be so high as to nearly be insurmountable. Also, the mechanics you describe don’t actually work like that. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/515 "2022-11-04T17:52:50Z")
Now high tier abyssal runners will be flagged as suspect!!! YAH!!! MUAHAEUEUAHEAHUUAEUAEUHAEUHAEUHAE Oh you gotta be in a 0.5 for tunning those sweet T6s now? Oh hohohohohoI HIHI HIHI HIHI Where people gonna run these? Hek? :partyparrot: | 0.8 | T0, T1, T2, T3 | T4, T5, T6 | | --- | --- | --- | | 0.7 | T0, T1, T2, T3, T4 | T5, T6 | | 0.6 | T0, T1, T2, T3, T4, T5 | T6 | | 0.5 | T0, T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, T6 | - | ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/516 "2022-11-04T17:54:37Z")
They’re just going to move to null-sec to run them. The only reason they run them in high-sec today is because there’s extra convenience in being able to sell your loot instantly. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/517 "2022-11-04T17:55:36Z")
You are speaking of reasonable people, how reasonable is the EVE community in general? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/518 "2022-11-04T17:56:08Z")
It has nothing to do with reason and everything to do with optimizing the grind. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/519 "2022-11-04T17:56:31Z")
We will see! ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/520 "2022-11-04T18:04:36Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > previously open pvp area **High-Security Space**. Please define that using common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/521 "2022-11-04T18:04:40Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > So you play EVE _just_ to shoot at ships? I play EvE to watch Netflix and REEE at anyone who wants to ban pvp. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/522 "2022-11-04T18:05:31Z")
Why? Which word are you having difficulty with? ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/523 "2022-11-04T18:07:24Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Which word None. It seems many of you don’t understand what HS means. A member of Concord is actually protected by a “high-security” apparatus. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/524 "2022-11-04T18:07:33Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Also, the mechanics you describe don’t actually work like that. Genuine question, because I do not know: what prevents docking a blingboat in an orca when emerging from abyssal trace? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/525 "2022-11-04T18:10:30Z")
I know that one can swap ships suspect inside an orca. So here is what I would do, Gank the orca sitting off the gate. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/526 "2022-11-04T18:11:10Z")
Sure, but we’re back to “Orca Ganking Online” which is, to me, just status quo. Just now it covers miners _and_ abyssal runners. Edit to add: CCP just always cops out and can’t commit to “maybe at higher riches/ISK capsuleers should be _unconditionally exposed_ to actual dangers” and make T4+ just flat-out suspect plus only usable in Pochven. Edit2: Make Eve Online Dangerous Again. Create more _CONCORD legal targets_ in High Sec. Stop with the silly ill-defined cop-out language “legitimate target” in your blog, CCP. Edit3: RIP Low Sec [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418.md?page=27)