# How To Handle 'PvE Only' **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 30, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418 "2022-10-30T15:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/547 "2022-11-04T19:53:35Z")
Hang on. In the announcement, did they say Alphas couldnt safety red? Doesnt that mean they cant open yellow cans? So I cant steal ■■■■ in my Orca?! ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/548 "2022-11-04T19:54:24Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > As said before, these changes will heavily affect big, mobile target ganking (e.g. freighters), and will have almost no effect on small, static target ganking (e.g. Ventures). > > CCP’s either absolutely ignorant, or this is intentional misdirection on their part. Yes that is indeed correct. It’s just like with the wardec nerf, where they said they want to get rid of big corps wardecing everyone, and then they made changes that made sure those where the only ones left being able to do wardecs economically. I just think none of them actually plays as a ganker or wardecer, and they simply don’t bother to ask anyone that does when they make changes to this systems. After all it’s just a side show to their all important nullsec game. ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/549 "2022-11-04T19:55:19Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Hang on. > > In the announcement, did they say Alphas couldnt safety red? Jep, they can’t activate safety red in highsec anymore. They have to enter low or null to do that now. > ### Additional limitations for Alpha pilots in Highsec > > By introducing these changes, the consequences for ganking have become more severe. To avoid players attempting to work around these new rules using Alpha clones, we are preemptively removing the ability for Alpha clones to disable safety while in high security space. They will still be able to enable partial safety in Highsec, and disable safety completely in any other areas of space. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/550 "2022-11-04T19:56:29Z")
Well thats total balls Except Im currently in lowsec, so… But still thats balls It shouldnt count for theivery ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/551 "2022-11-04T19:56:39Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I can quit with a clear conceince No one is stopping you. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/552 "2022-11-04T19:57:12Z")
Im not surprised you have no concept of what a conscience is. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/553 "2022-11-04T20:03:34Z")
But back on topic for theivery… Could we have Abandonment Timers on cans and wrecks so I can live out of the bin as Ive successfully done for 10 game playing years now, CCP? Or does taking a 5000 isk AB from a yellow can really cost me £20 a month? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/554 "2022-11-04T20:07:40Z")
You don’t need red safety to steal. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/555 "2022-11-04T20:11:25Z")
I thought thecrule was you couldnt on Green, and Alphas are locked Green in HS now? If Im wrong, ignore my panic pls. Happy to be wrong on my reading of all this. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/556 "2022-11-04T20:14:44Z")
they can yellow so steal is allowed red is only to do things that concord insta kill you ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/557 "2022-11-04T20:15:31Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > they can yellow Correct, Alphas will be able to go yellow, so you will still be able to go suspect. Until 2023, when they remove that too. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/558 "2022-11-04T20:17:22Z")
Ooohhh ok thanks guys Phew ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/559 "2022-11-04T20:24:09Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Except Im currently in lowsec, so.. Well, I sure hope you have someone to do logistics with or that you aren’t permaflashy. Cause they just made it annoying for solo/small-scale permaflashies staging out of highsec. You know… cause those lowsec residents… ■■■■ those people in particular! ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/560 "2022-11-04T20:26:51Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > You know… cause those lowsec residents… ■■■■ those people in particular! especially those with no alt army 😕 I’m writhing my 5000 words i quit cry post it will be a masterpiece so may take a while ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/561 "2022-11-04T20:31:42Z")
If you do, can you send me all your ISK? I’ll put it to good use. I’ll keep on the good work, despite the hardships. You can count on that? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/562 "2022-11-04T20:34:08Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > If you do, can you send me all your ISK? > > I’ll put it to good use. I’ll keep on the good work, despite the hardships. You can count on that? i have 300 millions atm , wen i end my magnum opus cry post i will think about you with fondness soon™ ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/563 "2022-11-04T20:48:00Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The dev _literally_ said “ganking was still possible before tethering, so what’s the big deal?” That tells you _everything_ you need to know. the no tether thing is a big aid for haulers, imo that change a lot for tiny ganks and solo hero gankers killing small o rmedium targets just like I said in another thread after Draclav brought the no tether subject a few days ago, I remembered that this no tether discourse came from some big haulers years ago, i actually saw a private stream from them in which they were streaming a bot who could travel gate to gate directly through highsec and he did +120 jumps since I saw it comming I immediately dennounced the UedamaScout and 22 people more, I did simply out of spite since I knew the no tetherthing would come in aid for the haulers those people are running scout bots like the Uedama scout and the freighters are on bots too the tether thing helped them an they knew it would help them so CCP’s announcement that protects newbs doesnt stick much ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/564 "2022-11-05T05:32:57Z")
PvE for $20,00 a month isn’t asking too much. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/565 "2022-11-05T10:00:54Z")
i don’t like tethering anyway several times i saw people blinking red or suspect and jumped to kill them and they were invul IMO no tethering for suspects and criminals in any sec especially null sec were is more egregious to be frank delete tethering from the game, nothing important will be lost just ■■■■■■■ dock ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/566 "2022-11-05T10:13:56Z")
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