# How To Handle 'PvE Only' **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 30, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418 "2022-10-30T15:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/144 "2022-10-31T18:34:32Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > What part of space can we see them? Ursa Miner (sic) ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/145 "2022-10-31T18:38:32Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Ursa Miner I just did a search. Usra Miner isn’t a constellation or a system, they’re a couple of corporations. Are you saying those corporations have Carebears in them? I would think the Carebears would be NPCs in powerful rainbow-colored ships. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > its super uber dirt poor Jeez, I have 2 million. That’s not even poor then, it’s not even on a chart. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/146 "2022-10-31T18:41:42Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > I just did a search. Usra Miner isn’t a constellation or a system, they’re a couple of corporations. Are you saying those corporations have Carebears in them? > I would think the Carebears would be NPCs in powerful rainbow-colored ships. its a word play urso means bear in portuguese , ursa is probably a derivation/origin miner , well because they like to mine > **[Ursa Minor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Minor)** > > Ursa Minor (Latin: 'Lesser Bear', contrasting with Ursa Major), also known as the Little Bear, is a constellation located in the far northern sky. As with the Great Bear, the tail of the Little Bear may also be seen as the handle of a ladle, hence the North American name, Little Dipper: seven stars with four in its bowl like its partner the Big Dipper. Ursa Minor was one of the 48 constellations listed by the 2nd-century astronomer Ptolemy, and remains one of the 88 modern constellations. Ursa Mi... > [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Jeez, I have 2 million. That’s not even poor then, it’s not even on a chart. lol 2 million is beyond poor there is null bears around this forum that make some kind o lobby that earning 200 million / hour is toooo low poor me 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/147 "2022-10-31T18:45:08Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Are you saying No. > [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > I have 2 million Recon Frigate, Probe Launcher and salvager, all you need to kick start a fortune ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/148 "2022-10-31T18:49:01Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Are you saying ![Captura de Tela 2022-10-31 às 15.48.35](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/1/5/915ae578ebcb80a4918de48a3209746cfe3ec7e3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/149 "2022-10-31T18:52:09Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > because they like to mine Oh so it’s players then. No Carebears, just carebear-miners. And they cry a lot… that’s unbecoming of bears, they rather growl. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > urso means bear in portuguese Thanks. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > earning 200 million / hour is toooo low poor me That’s 1 billion every 5 hours. But I don’t see myself being a miner. I think I want to explore and see all of new eden, maybe kill some pirates and find cool stuff… > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Recon Frigate > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Recon Frigate, Probe Launcher and salvager, all you need to kick start a fortune I think I want to have fun in this universe, not run after the isk, that would bore me in a week. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/150 "2022-10-31T18:53:25Z")
you appear to be a smart person the kind of new player we need ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/151 "2022-10-31T18:55:42Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > you appear to be a smart person Appearances can be deceiving. > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > the kind of new player we need Explorers? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/152 "2022-10-31T18:57:48Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Explorers? not exclusively do what you like i mean your positive and curious spirit in contrast to a negative and whiny one ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/153 "2022-10-31T19:03:47Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i mean your positive and curious spirit in contrast to a negative and whiny one No one likes a whiner so I make it a point not to whine. Plus this is a game, it’s supposed to be fun. Not much fun in whining, is there? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/155 "2022-10-31T19:27:32Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > I think I want to have fun in this universe, not run after the isk, that would bore me in a week. No idea what made you say that but good for you ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/156 "2022-10-31T19:39:05Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > No idea what made you say that It’s simple. I “run” after real money irl, I spend hours and hours poring over reports, maintenance tickets, paperwork for the subcontractors, visitors’ lists, then I have to watch security camera’s images for 2 hours a day and _then_ I have to type full reports to my bosses. That’s 40 to 50 hours a week making money. It’s not a game and there’s very little fun in it. Why would I then play a game on my time off to run after money again? When I decided to play EVE I want to be an explorer and see what cool stuff I can find, maybe shoot some pirates and possibly get hunted by real players… that sounds like fun. Doing everything with the end goal of being isk billionaire isn’t what I signed up for. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/157 "2022-10-31T19:44:06Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > Doing everything with the end goal of being isk billionaire isn’t what I signed up for. I wasn’t under the impression anyone said it was. That’s why its wierd for you to just say that. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/158 "2022-10-31T19:54:01Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I wasn’t under the impression anyone said it was I guess I still had this in mind then > [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > my net worth is 13 billion ATM I doubt I’ll ever get to over 2 billions but 13 billions and he says he’s “poor”. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > That’s why its wierd for you to just say that. Lots of things can be weird until they are explained. This whole game is weird and cool at the same time. It’s weird to me because I don’t know much about it but in time it will cease to be. Like right now there’s these threads about untested Amarrian tech and suns going supernova and gates shutting down… it’s all very wierd to me. Just now getting to know what’s going on with Trigs. That’s even weirder. I hope I can learn what’s going on before my character is affected by all that, if at all. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/159 "2022-10-31T22:54:08Z")
I’d invite players looking for an experience that has no threat of PvP to check out a different game such as Astrox Imperium. I do not believe that it is prohibitively difficult to avoid PvP in EVE by any stretch. Far, far, far from being so difficult as to require the changes being suggested by those that would prefer a purely PvE experience. Personally, I find that it really spices the game up. I would be sorry to see that threat removed or made into an opt-in mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/160 "2022-10-31T23:57:40Z")
For once I’ll be very concise in my answer: People with an aversity towards PvP - especially to the point where they want to change the nature of the game - have **no business** in this full-PvP game. They should find another game, instead of insisting on breaking the spirit AND the economic backbone of a player-driven market. > [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > It would be far less effort to start up a new EVE server by all means, with its own forum, so that this one finds some long deserved serenity. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/161 "2022-11-01T00:40:24Z")
My opinion is different from yours. I think it’s fine for people to want to play a game and to also want changes to it that will allow them to enjoy it more. You don’t want serenity, you just want all opinions you disagree with to be banished. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/162 "2022-11-01T00:40:32Z")
> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#): > > I doubt I’ll ever get to over 2 billions but 13 billions and he says he’s “poor”. A few hours a day mining in a barge and you can have a billion in a month or so…even mining in highsec. The other option, if mining or other ratting is too much of a grind, is to buy PLEX and convert it to ISK. I think its currently about 900m ISK for £10 of PLEX. I find there’s a certain level of ISK beyond which you really don’t need to keep grinding or buying more…because expensive ships are ( hopefully ) lost less often. For me that’s about 10bn ISK ( across 8 characters )…of which half is tied up in ships and fittings. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/163 "2022-11-01T00:44:22Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > My opinion is different from yours. You don’t get out of being wrong merely by having a ‘different opinion’. ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418/164 "2022-11-01T00:52:47Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > A few hours a day mining in a barge and you can have a billion in a month or so…even mining in highsec. The other option, if mining or other ratting is too much of a grind, is to buy PLEX and convert it to ISK. I think its currently about 900m ISK for £10 of PLEX I’m not complaining about my isk. I have enough to have fun right now. Besides, I would rather have fun in EVE than slave away for isk. Mining isn’t my thing. I need more action than that. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > The other option, if mining or other ratting is too much of a grind, is to buy PLEX and convert it to ISK. I think its currently about 900m ISK for £10 of PLEX Yes, that’s possible but I want to see more of the game before I spend money and going Omega+PLEX wouldn’t be a problem for me. I just want to make sure I will have fun or it’s no use to paying for it. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I find there’s a certain level of ISK beyond which you really don’t need to keep grinding or buying more…because expensive ships are ( hopefully ) lost less often. For me that’s about 10bn ISK ( across 8 characters )…of which half is tied up in ships and fittings. 8 characters. How do you keep track of that crowd? I doubt I will create another character. I don’t think I will need it plus it’s additional costs on top of the one I have and as I said, everything is too expensive in this game. I would rather concentrate on the one character I have. Thanks for the tips. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-handle-pve-only/382418.md?page=9)