# How to make a horrible ship even more horrible! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 25, 2026, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812 "2026-03-25T15:16:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/22 "2026-03-27T03:09:04Z")
> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > I provided an example of why i disagree with this. did you read it? Yes, I did. Let me break it down for you dude; - My first paragraph was about the ship designs in this fantasy game. In my opinion, Gallente Federation are a mess of ugly. - Second paragraph, I spoke of real life spaceships where you quoted “The **reality** of spaceships is the esthetic design is unimportant.”. I even cited some examples. - Followed up with the fictional Borg ship design was more factual to space travel, unlike the Federation ships design to look sleek and appeal to the eye. NASA would never waste their budget on such nonfunctional parts. So it sounds to me, when you quoted my line about real NASA ships, you must really love their design of the LEM and maybe the ISS. However you didn’t mention those in your reply. Instead you went on about how much you love EVE ships. But you didn’t quote any my opinions about the EVE ships from that first paragraph. Does that sum things up? ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/23 "2026-03-27T03:19:47Z")
> [@John\_Rochard](#): > > So it sounds to me, when you quoted my line about real NASA ships, to be honest, i kind of ignore nasa designs for anything. I don’t think they really have any bearing on spaceships for eve since the technology is far superior. I would think that quite a bit of things would be different, from materials and composits, which would be i think called a material technology? The other technology also i think would be pretty far removed from the things our current civilizational knowledge would have any impact on. Things like the ISS i also consider irrelevant, but only because that is a station and not a ship. I did not mean to pass over those parts as a way to disregard your opinions. I simply think the differences would be too great for any real comparison. I do appreciate your summery, I guess I assumed based on what i’ve seen especially in the last couple of weeks going on in these forums. I apologize foe that. > [@John\_Rochard](#): > > Followed up with the fictional Borg ship design was more factual to space travel, unlike the Federation ships design to look sleek and appeal to the eye I also happen to think this comparison doesnt really match, since the borg would be more of like if an AI designed something for the most efficient. I think humans are too different. I can appreciate the efficiency and design, but I also think it is really bland. I think there is opportunity in eve since our characters are in between a typical space faring human in science fiction, as well as robots in science fiction. I think the efficiency could match, while also providing for visual designs that would appeal more to an organic life form. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/24 "2026-03-27T03:35:10Z")
The Eagle isn’t as boxy as most of the Caldari ships. I mostly equate their designers to those of 1980’s Toyota and Volvo. Every now and then those car companies do surprise me. The Ferox looks more like it was designed to lift freight than to blow up ships. I like the Merlin but not the Bantam. For some reason, when I look at the Bantam, I think postal truck. However there isn’t any Gallente Federation ships I can think of that made me say, “Whoa! Cool ship design.”. I know the gankers are in love with the Catalyst, but it looks like someone sawed the left wing off a WWII bomber. Fly Safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/25 "2026-03-27T09:29:54Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > Roden Campaign Bus. > > Ill have a 2nd one in a few more days. I can take them both off your hands, however I know the prices are coming down on these in the coming days. So I am not willing to pay more than slightly above Jita buy. I can accept any location in contiguous high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/26 "2026-03-27T09:48:18Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > I can take them both off your hands, however I know the prices are coming down on these in the coming days. So I am not willing to pay more than slightly above Jita buy. I can accept any location in contiguous high sec. Send your offer via in game mail if you wish. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/27 "2026-03-27T20:35:40Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > Send your offer via in game mail if you wish. Sure, send me your offer. ---
**Author:** ![Zeyna\_Tak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeyna_tak/32/500479_2.png) [@Zeyna\_Tak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeyna_Tak)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/28 "2026-03-28T05:26:13Z")
I was looking at Cenotaph today and at certain angle it looks like Tornado hit Ferox so hard that they melted all together. That’s why CCP decided to mix Minmaldari hull bonuses just an exception to make that thing excisted. ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/29 "2026-03-28T10:51:40Z")
Rip red, you were to fire to these forums… I told you to retreat, but you decided to let your angry take the best of you. Until the next char I guess. I kinda liked your portrait, these forums are not the same now without your lunacy… Kinda boring. F ---
**Author:** ![Tessa\_Springfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tessa_springfield/32/494841_2.png) [@Tessa\_Springfield](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tessa_Springfield)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/30 "2026-03-28T22:47:52Z")
I’m not gone yet. Though I’m sure I will be since they are targeting my entire corp now. I’m having to tell my members to find a new corp lest they get banned simply for associating with me. Guess I’m not allowed to have friends from RL play this video game with me. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2026, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/31 "2026-03-28T22:57:46Z")
> [@FOR HILMAR: MESSAGE TO THE PAST GLORY OF NEW EDEN!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/for-hilmar-message-to-the-past-glory-of-new-eden/365742/46): > > Sure thing well known K0 K0 alt. Sheesh. even in 2022 some of these people were accusing me of being an alt of someone that had no connection to me at all. Now I’m your alt just because I’m in your corp? Paranoia is a skill that can’t be trained in the game but i guess they trained it in real life so high that they can’t function in any conversation that has someone they just dont like. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/32 "2026-03-29T02:51:33Z")
> [@Tessa\_Springfield](#): > > they are targeting my entire corp now. Who is? And how? ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/34 "2026-03-29T18:19:44Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > Who is? And how? a small number of people in another thread decided to do this, and got moderated off the thread > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > users like to be hostile towards people trying to engage with them. You know this to be dishonest and that is why your posts and several others were removed. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/36 "2026-03-29T18:47:36Z")
If you are not aware, my profile can be clicked and my activity can be viewed. I am not hostile on any of my posts. Please stop your propaganda against me. Several of your posts have been removed for this very thing that you’re attempting here. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/38 "2026-03-29T18:54:30Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Well your posts were moderated as well. My posts asking individuals to stick to the topic have not been removed, and neither have my posts requesting to stop attempting to instigate an argument instead of a friendly debate of ideas. I am civil and open to any debate in regards to any of my posts. If you would like to discuss this further instead of your propaganda and smear campaign on these forums, please contact me in game. This is not the place for what you are doing. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/40 "2026-03-29T19:05:11Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > And yet the many post you did have between when ISD removed 39 and 29 posts were, among those responding to you. A large number of those removed posts came from you. You’re being dishonest and you are derailing yet another thread. I have asked you to stop. This is not the place for your games. This is a forum that is open to every player and is intended for honest debate of ideas and expressions regarding game related topics. 79 posts have been removed from that thread for being off topic. More than the number of posts for the topic itself. How many are you going to bring this one to? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/41 "2026-03-29T19:13:21Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > Who is? And how? > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > They (their corpmate) made another thread wanting to remove the term highsec from the game and are reacting to the way both forum users like to be hostile towards people trying to engage with them. At least, that’s what it seems like to me. It’s all been moderated though. You were the one who responded to this. I was reporting what the other people were doing, but you took offense. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > A large number of those removed posts came from you. Some were yes. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > I have asked you to stop. You can stop too. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > This is not the place for your games. I’m not playing games here, aside from EVE online. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > How many are you going to bring this one to? Are you going to keep denying that people were attacking you and your responses? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/42 "2026-03-29T19:18:56Z")
Anyways, the ships aren’t horrible imo. If anything they fixed it. Although having the option for a bus align time would be funny. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/43 "2026-03-29T20:39:42Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Although having the option for a bus align time would be funny. Now I’m not sure whether the original align was a bug, or CCP caved in to negative feedback and changed it. It was kind of funny. I liked the extra cargo space, that could have seen some interesting applications of the hull. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2026, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-make-a-horrible-ship-even-more-horrible/508812/44 "2026-06-27T20:40:13Z")
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