# How to properly use KRs for anti-ganking purposes

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**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [November 17, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-properly-use-krs-for-anti-ganking-purposes/201302 "2019-11-17T13:27:04Z")\
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## Part 4 - KR glitches and Phantom KRs

Unike other character attributes that are immediately loaded and always kept up to date by the EvE client, the KR data is fetched separately the first time you see the pilot in space, then _cached_ by the client and updated with delays that may be of several minutes.

A consequence of this is that you may observe KR glitches and inconsistent KR info being displayed, such as pilots with KRs on them not showing the KR tag in local until you see them in space.

The most notable of such glitches is pilots showing a KR on them that no longer exists because it has been cleared already, maybe several minutes after the pilot stopped being suspect even, i.e. a phantom KR.

If you try to activate such a KR, nothing will happen, you’ll get a notification saying that the KR couldn’t be activated because it no longer exists, but the pilot won’t go suspect and you won’t be charged for the KR either.

You have to be careful before trying to activate the KR again, though, because the client does update its KR cache at that point and if the pilot still shows a KR, that’s _another KR_, which may have a much higher price than the one you tried to activate at first…

You need to check the price shown for a KR before trying to activate it **every time.** Don’t mindlessly try to activate a KR without checking, thinking it’s still the same KR that you saw the last time you checked.

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