# How to Retain Players in EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 31, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137 "2025-05-31T13:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/202 "2025-06-09T10:36:55Z")
Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/203 "2025-06-09T11:46:42Z")
They’ve been working on it for some time it seems ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/204 "2025-06-09T14:31:44Z")
Based on what? ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/205 "2025-06-09T14:36:06Z")
The “little things” thread was relaunched earlier this year and heavily promoted. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/206 "2025-06-09T14:39:50Z")
“Little things” are not a major expansion or even significant update. I guess we’ll find out this summer, but it’s never historically been more than, well… a collection of little things. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/207 "2025-06-09T14:41:23Z")
## Timeline March 4th: Bakster opines in a [forum post](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/provide-some-value/478512) on [Eveonline.com](http://Eveonline.com) he speaks for the majority and urges CCP to find and fix little things March 14th CCP relaunches the little things thread June 7th: CCP Okami mentions a coming patch that focuses on little things June 24th: Slated release date for said patch 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/208 "2025-06-09T14:44:55Z")
If it turns out they found and fixed the right little things i wouldnt be surprised if Peak Concurent Players breaks 40k not long after. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/209 "2025-06-09T21:25:19Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > March 4th: Bakster opines in a forum post on [Eveonline.com](http://Eveonline.com) he speaks for the majority and urges CCP to find and fix little things “Bakster speaks for the majority” says Bakster. What an arrogance. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/210 "2025-06-09T21:42:40Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > What an arrogance. Inb4 he retorts: `but you have no evidence I don't speak for the majority`. 🤔 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/211 "2025-06-09T21:48:59Z")
CCP worked on “little things” last summer, too. Nothing to report here. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/212 "2025-06-09T23:30:50Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > “Bakster speaks for the majority” says Bakster. > > What an arrogance. I think his a funny dude. 🥸 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/213 "2025-06-09T23:58:40Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > I think his a funny dude. I like your attitude! More players should have a sense of humor. It’s just a game… 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/214 "2025-06-10T01:04:44Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > As long as a person has a decent level of discernment the truth is pretty easy to spot. Not if that ‘level of discernment’ is itself a delusion. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/215 "2025-06-10T01:08:43Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > June 7th: CCP Okami mentions a coming patch that focuses on little things Ah…that must be the patch to fix the previous ‘little things’ patch that messed up the ship fittings window remembering what ship you were on. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/216 "2025-06-10T02:01:58Z")
![download](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/e/a/8ea80053303db56ffc7a29e2f3bd688bba707c7a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/217 "2025-06-10T10:31:30Z")
Fix the market to retain players. Address the issues instead of manipulating material costs and mineral availability. > [@Market broken](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/market-broken/483518/100): > > If the market isn’t fixed, game changes won’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/218 "2025-06-10T11:16:53Z")
… says the person who proposes to kill the player-ran aspect of the market by putting up static NPC sell orders for all items to ‘prevent spikes’ and proposes to remove the tax that stopped a majority of market bots. One almost couldn’t suggest better changes to kill the EVE market if they tried. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/219 "2025-06-10T11:35:47Z")
> static NPC sell orders for all items to ‘prevent spikes’ This is inevitable if the market isn’t fixed ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/220 "2025-06-10T11:45:51Z")
A player run market does not work when buy and sell liquidity is disincentivized ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/221 "2025-06-10T11:50:59Z")
@Gerard_Amatin Was it your idea to force players to pay tax on transactions before they have taken place? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137.md?page=12)