# How to Retain Players in EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 31, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137 "2025-05-31T13:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Namaros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namaros/32/461419_2.png) [@Namaros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namaros)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/61 "2025-06-01T09:17:56Z")
eve is slow af and grinndy like its some kind of prison nobody will waste months to lear some skills in order to fly some ship imagine you start as new player and want to fly something big, not only you need $$$, but you also need to waste irl time ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/62 "2025-06-01T09:37:09Z")
Who is Githany\_Red and why should I care exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/63 "2025-06-01T09:38:55Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > why should I care exactly? See. @Aiko_Danuja was right about HighSec. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/64 "2025-06-01T09:55:59Z")
Who’s Aiko\_Danuja and why should I care? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/65 "2025-06-01T10:07:37Z")
> **[Noctis | Arthur Aihaken | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/122282398/)** > > Arthur Aihaken (CODE.d) lost their Noctis in Hageken (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (The Conference Elite) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 221,009,258.80 ISK Wow! It’s your honor that 2 of the Higher Ups of Safety. Ganked you before.. 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/66 "2025-06-01T11:55:51Z")
> [@Skjer\_Artrald](#): > > cause they are staying Eve is an addiction to some. I know it is to me. ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/67 "2025-06-01T11:57:52Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > Higher Ups of Safety. Do you know how stupid that sounds. They’re like fleas. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/68 "2025-06-01T12:52:41Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > Wow! It’s your honor that 2 of the Higher Ups of Safety. Ganked you before. Like I could seriously care less. What was that, 7 months ago? It had already paid for itself many times over… I can’t imagine it was worth the time stalking and hunting me down… lol ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/69 "2025-06-01T13:00:03Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > stalking Those girls like old men.. 😁 You can invite them for some drinks at Pulse Bar. 🥰 ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/70 "2025-06-01T13:24:53Z")
The old argument of " I want to be as good as someone that has been here longer than me. I want that right now!" Sorry folks here in Eve it is not about instant gratification. It is setting a goal and working towards it. Want to fly that big shiny ship. And be as good as a vet. Then work towards it and one day you will be. The kicker is that you will be a vet by then as well. Probably a bitter vet too. If I want instant gratification I can play a few arcade type games or board/card games online. As I play tend to play games that are not instant gratification. Such as Eve. For me to spend maybe a few hours and be flying as good as anybody that has been playing longer than me. That would be a nonstarter. When people ask me about what eve is like. My elevator speech is this. Eve Online is a game for self starters. People willing to set goals and work towards them. Even though there is no telling how successful you will ultimately be. There is a lot to do in Eve. Such as exploration, mission running, and yes getting in to those big fights you see on youtube from time to time. All that takes time and effort. And yes there is a good reason why Eve Online is sometimes referred to being spaceships and spreadsheets. If I could have climbed into a titan in the first week of playing. I would never have gone for a sub and by now have boredly quit/uninstalled the game. The game for me engages my imagination. Challenges me to work towards my goals. And most important of all is fun. I do not want it watered down to a point. That I can climb into say a tengu and be as good as a vet of a decade or so. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/71 "2025-06-01T14:07:00Z")
> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#): > > setting a goal and working towards it. Better to do this in real life not in a Fictional video game.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/73 "2025-06-01T14:22:32Z")
What’s got you salty? Only seen vague comments from you, what has you hating on EVE? ---
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/74 "2025-06-01T15:28:44Z")
> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#): > > The old argument of " I want to be as good as someone that has been here longer than me. I want that right now!" Sorry folks here in Eve it is not about instant gratification. It is setting a goal and working towards it. Ah the old appeal to tradition, how dare people demand to have fun in a boomer video game, we had to train learning skills for six weeks before we were allowed to do anything, just be happy you’re allowed to use an afterburner from day one and farm your daily alpha injector for a few months and never AFK or the Catalysts with unlimited resources will get you. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/75 "2025-06-01T17:22:32Z")
Yep and there it is.. I can not have my instant gratification. How dare a game force me to actually force me to play a game as intended. I want to do it now! Make it easier. This sandbox game that warned me that I was not ready for it was right. Not fair! [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/8/2/682cf40dbb96a1f6561bd159d5b546a1a1c9275f.jpeg "EVE Online "You're Not Ready For It" Ad") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdwlBTIBg4) ---
**Author:** ![Skadoos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skadoos/32/409261_2.png) [@Skadoos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skadoos)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/76 "2025-06-01T17:36:12Z")
Was this done by the same guy who does the “90% of people can’t solve this puzzle” mobile ads? Did it work? Did people jump on the engagement bait and say “What? I’ll show you!” or is player retention way down? ---
**Author:** ![Satara\_Chaslot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/satara_chaslot/32/450914_2.png) [@Satara\_Chaslot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Satara_Chaslot)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/77 "2025-06-01T18:17:29Z")
Remove Nullsec completely ---
**Author:** ![Namaros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namaros/32/461419_2.png) [@Namaros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namaros)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/78 "2025-06-01T18:19:13Z")
> play game as intended > You mean buying PLEX? You must be dense if you dont see how devs made EVE into P2W game ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/79 "2025-06-01T18:40:03Z")
You might be surprised how many players have actually been to null as part of a corp, and then decided it wasn’t for them. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/80 "2025-06-01T18:47:26Z")
idk if the newer devs still feel this way, i know some older devs are still here that have the belief that players should figure things on their own.. i think thats the issue with eve compared to other games… no other game basically tells you to FAFO quite like EVE ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/81 "2025-06-01T20:45:39Z")
If you believe that. Then why are you still playing? I am honestly curious if that is what you truly believe. That this is in actuality P2W game. Why play? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137.md?page=5)