# How to Retain Players in EVE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 31, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137 "2025-05-31T13:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/122 "2025-06-03T14:12:51Z")
How to retain players? Dont update the game unless you have something substantial to update. Take for example the patch today. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/d/a0d004def263d9981da4c3d4df72d11d505467f6.jpeg) Its completely uninspiring. They could add a Tech II reactive armor hardener, or anything similarly simple with substance, right? But they dont because they arent smart apparantly ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/123 "2025-06-03T14:19:59Z")
There was supposed to be a high-sec ore/mineral update. Guess it didn’t make it… ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/124 "2025-06-03T21:57:14Z")
> [@Laubrani](#): > > Might be a big reason Eve can’t retain players The biggest reason they can’t retain players is because EVE isn’t WoW with spaceships, people don’t like loss and they can’t handle having to read a LOT of information The average gamer these days needs simple things that are easy to understand like “number go up good”, they need levels that mean they can just grind and beat anything This is not EVE and it never will be, niche game has a niche audience and eventually it will have burned through that small number of players and will eventually die, but that is just normal and doesn’t mean the game failed, if your niche is 100k and 90k of those people enjoyed the game then thats still a win even if it means once those 100k people have played it the game dies, you satisfied your audience ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/125 "2025-06-03T21:58:39Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > How to retain players? Dont update the game unless you have something substantial to update. Take for example the patch today. So you don’t want them to fix bugs? They are going to push an update when they have something to update, those little patches aren’t driving players away they complete in like 30 seconds ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/126 "2025-06-04T05:52:45Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > The biggest reason they can’t retain players is because EVE isn’t WoW with spaceships, people don’t like loss and they can’t handle having to read a LOT of information You are wrong 500k accounts loved to pay for that. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/127 "2025-06-04T06:20:14Z")
I vote **none of the above**. I said this before elsewhere in the forum. Unless a player finds something they want to achieve in less than the first hour of game play, they won’t stick around. Players need goals and it is up to the player to set their own goals. The user interface at the start is nightmare fuel. All those opened, transparent, and cluttered windows makes the game look more complicated than it is to play. I don’t run with much more than 3 windows open. @Cypherous I don’t recall spaceships in WoW but D&D is another story; enjoy and be educated. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/3/6/c36172210694ee92ce77a8734f5d041c7cd7c299.jpeg "SPELLJAMMER Explained! | D&D Lore") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsNF9ZlMoJw) Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/128 "2025-06-04T07:30:46Z")
SSI Buck Rogers! The real D&D spaceships, not fantasy magic stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/129 "2025-06-04T11:00:27Z")
but eve has level up to level V, master ship level V, tech 2 and officer agent level 1-2-3-4-5 so much more ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/130 "2025-06-04T11:28:49Z")
> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#): > > @Cypherous I don’t recall spaceships in WoW but D&D is another story; enjoy and be educated. Where did i say WoW had spaceships? so not really a case of be educated and more a case of try reading? ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/131 "2025-06-04T11:30:28Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > but eve has level up to level V, master ship level V, tech 2 and officer Right, but those levels don’t mean much when they can be countered, its not just a case of “my level 50 battleship cannot lose to anything lower level” like you would end up with in a traditional level based game where most things are essentially stat checks ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/132 "2025-06-04T11:32:06Z")
Where is this going exactly…? ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/133 "2025-06-04T13:31:56Z")
i was kinda sarcastic there ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/134 "2025-06-04T14:05:12Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > it already exists You should have read his post **before** you replied to it. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/135 "2025-06-04T14:08:45Z")
If you manage to get 100M SP and 25B ISK in wallet you become like Cypherous i think. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/136 "2025-06-04T15:06:25Z")
This protection also extends to systems in which ‘Career Agents’ are located and as well as to systems associated with The Blood Stained Stars - Sisters of EVE Epic Arc. - Tricking new players into situations where you or others may open fire on them freely LOL. I was baited into PVP in my newbie days in a Career agent system at the entrance of the academy station. CCP doesn’t protect you from anything. Stop with this nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/137 "2025-06-04T15:29:45Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > LOL. I was baited into PVP in my newbie days in a Career agent system at the entrance of the academy station. CCP doesn’t protect you from anything. Stop with this nonsense. They do if you report it to them, they aren’t going to actively have GM’s cloaked in every possible griefing system to see whats going on and just automatically protect you ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/138 "2025-06-04T15:33:37Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > They do if you report it to them New Players doesn’t know about reporting. They don’t even know how HigSec works. They are still in the process of learning. > [@Cypherous](#): > > they aren’t going to actively have GM’s cloaked in every possible griefing system to see whats going on and just automatically protect you That would be interesting ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/139 "2025-06-04T15:36:02Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > New Players doesn’t know about reporting. They are opted in to the rookie chat by default, in the process of asking what happened any one of the ISD’s in there will direct them to it or fill out a report on their behalf ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/140 "2025-06-04T15:55:09Z")
Hm… I have 200Mil SP between my characters and like 400Billion ISK in wallet… I don’t think I see myself making posts similar to his… 🤔 (Have I leveled up/down already?) ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/141 "2025-06-04T19:34:57Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > You should have read his post **before** you replied to it. I did, and come post with your main if you want to have an actual discussion 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137.md?page=8)