# How to Retain Players in EVE

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 31, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137 "2025-05-31T13:13:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/162 "2025-06-05T03:55:40Z")

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> [@Swing\_Vote1](#):
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> Now, I want you to think about the history of Eve Online and see if you can come up with another reason that I don’t want to expose my main.

Bah. I never met anyone who was doing well in EVE who was afraid to ‘expose’ their main. Only people with 10 kills and 27,397 losses.

What’s more it is somewhat arrogant to presuppose that anyone even _cares_ who you ‘really are’ to the extent that you need to hide it.

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/163 "2025-06-05T05:38:32Z")

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Again it says a lot more about you. Then it does the rest of us that posts with our main toons..

But as my young friends say, you do you.

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/164 "2025-06-05T08:44:16Z")

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You guys really are desperate.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/165 "2025-06-05T09:18:47Z")

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You people and your large pictures …

And …

> [@Cypherous](#):
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> The biggest reason they can’t retain players is because EVE isn’t WoW with spaceships,

> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#):
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> I don’t recall spaceships in WoW but D&D is another story; enjoy and be educated.

He didnt say there were space ships in WoW. He said Eve isn’t an easy game made for 8 year olds, with space ships.

Also, there are spaceships in WoW.  
(Vindicator and mount at least).

> [@Cypherous](#):
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> Where did i say WoW had spaceships?

> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#):
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> Sorry my post offended you so badly. However I did read yours and fully understood what you stated. This is a case of you failing to comprehend what I replied. Remember to always look before you leap to false conclusions.

@Rose:  
1: You are wrong and clearly didn’t understand - or is trolling.  
2: You turn away from the fact and deflect with a personal attack about emotions, to try cover up you are not answering the question.  
3: You continue by accusing the other of your own misconduct.

> [@Cypherous](#):
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> I did, and come post with your main if you want to have an actual discussion

> [@Swing\_Vote1](#):
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> Ah yes, the sacred rite of internet debate: show thy main or be forever banished to the land of invalid opinions.

> [@Cypherous](#):
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> Because you’re not willing to face the repercussions of your actions, welcome to the real world where your actions have consequences

You people …  
A statement is not more or less valid because of who says it. Now if you don’t understand a statement, some people might be worth your time figuring out what they meant - most are not. so knowing who says something does matter.

It does not have to be your main, although that is of course an easy way to do it in games. But as long as you use the same character always, you are always standing by your statements and letting people learn if you are worthless or possible worth listening to.

And as for demanding people speak up on their main, so they can face repercussions … the only reason for that combination is your repercussions for participating in a forum debate are completely against values such as free speech, and adding a statement about real world on top …

So from making a good point of having to post with just 1 character, to showing why people should make an alt solely for the forums, and definitely never give away name, address, country information etc.

_EDIT_ No decent preview …

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**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/166 "2025-06-05T09:57:24Z")

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I voted:

1. Lower subscription price.
2. Better and permanent log-in rewards

It wouldn’t hurt to improve the value of drops either. I think that would increase player numbers and participation.  
Getting a handle on the runaway inflation, prices at Market and lowering taxes - always a popular move - would improve retention.

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/167 "2025-06-05T11:34:12Z")

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> [@Laubrani](#):
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> you are always standing by your statements

As long as a person has a decent level of discernment the truth is pretty easy to spot.

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**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/168 "2025-06-05T11:36:29Z")

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I would like if you included the first part.

> [@Laubrani](#):
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> But as long as you use the same character always, you are always standing by your statements

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/169 "2025-06-05T11:46:23Z")

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> [@Laubrani](#):
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> included the first part

I certainly hope people read everything BEFORE they weigh in.

The biggest problem here is the constant trolling.

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**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/170 "2025-06-05T20:21:04Z")

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So you misunderstood and also found me offensive?

Let me break this down. IF you or the poster @Cypherous had replied, my comments were off topic, I would have to agree with you. I played WoW back when it was new for about 6 months, then I dropped it. They did have some weird transports like zeppelins and griffons. I honestly didn’t know, if they added them and I don’t care, **that is not the point**. Cypherous made an analogy to people wanting this game to be WoW with spaceships. I agree Eve in not WoW with spaceships but I don’t think anyone can really know what the other players want. I didn’t think I needed to do a whole paragraph to explain all this. I don’t think everyone wants Eve to be WoW with spaceships, **but assuming they did** , D&D ( basically what WoW is based upon ) has in fact added spaceships to the mix since 1989.

I am a very nice person, when posting I try to avoid idioms, slang, and tropes. If anyone is trolling, I feel it must be you, or you failed to comprehend and need everything written out in a complete dissertation. I honestly don’t see how you can get offended by my apology to Cypherous.

Have fun!

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**Author:** ![Sara\_Seraph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sara_seraph/32/495525_2.png) [@Sara\_Seraph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sara_Seraph)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/171 "2025-06-05T21:21:25Z")

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Actually EVE is _Traveller_ except for the driving around in vehicles and walking on planets nor in Stations.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/172 "2025-06-05T23:52:23Z")

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> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#):
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> Remember to always look before you leap to false conclusions.

I would if it were true though, i never once said WoW had spaceships, like i get that you’re not happy with the fact that you misread what i said, it happens

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**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/173 "2025-06-06T01:23:42Z")

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> [@Swing\_Vote1](#):
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> I certainly hope people read everything BEFORE they weigh in.

The idea with quoting is that people don’t need to read the whole part. But quotes also must show what was actually said, when you completely remove the context, like in the above example remove who the subject is, you change the meaning of the quoted sentence. In the above example, change it from referring to people who only post with 1 character, to possible meaning every single one, the only hint there is a part missing, is the grammatical error of the first letter being non-capitalized.

If you feel part of a sentence is useless, you show it was removed fx

> [@Laubrani](#):
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> But as long as you use the same character always, you are always standing by your statements and letting people learn if you are worthless or possible worth listening to.

> [@Laubrani](#):
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> Well this example can’t be done in these forums

or more lazy

> [@Laubrani](#):
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> …you are always standing by your statements…

But in both examples, you make it completely open for interpretation who I was talking about. Without showing I did have a subject, and nowhere in your text do you mention who the subject is.

If you expect people to read the whole post you are replying to in order to understand your post, why do you quote anything at all?

_EDIT_ Wow forums eat if you write

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/174 "2025-06-06T05:27:11Z")

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> [@Laubrani](#):
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> why do you quote

Because I can.

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**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/175 "2025-06-06T05:46:14Z")

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I see, just a troll.

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**Author:** ![DeT\_Resprox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/det_resprox/32/378679_2.png) [@DeT\_Resprox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeT_Resprox)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/176 "2025-06-06T07:55:33Z")

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Thank you for your kind words.

Lot’s more to come with big developments happening right now at [https://www.evepandora.com/](https://www.evepandora.com/)  
there will be faction campaigns starting this Sunday and missions going in from early next week 😉

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/177 "2025-06-06T11:52:15Z")

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No, I didn’t come here for an English lesson.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/178 "2025-06-06T23:39:45Z")

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Good thing you missed the spelling and punction police. Posting on the forums is just like undocking. You consent to pvp in all its forms.

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/179 "2025-06-06T23:43:02Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> You consent to pvp in all its forms.

You obviously didn’t follow the conversation.

It’s been my experience that physically weak people talk the most $hit.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/180 "2025-06-06T23:44:59Z")

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Look in a mirror then. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-retain-players-in-eve/488137/181 "2025-06-07T01:22:36Z")

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6’ 205 lbs

I’ve made a lot of mistakes in my lifetime.

But being weak isn’t one of them.

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