# How To Save Your Knees

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [November 7, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339 "2022-11-07T08:37:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/22 "2022-11-07T17:53:45Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Except there are tons of ways to avoid that too

There are way _before_ the gank, not during.

> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> They have more than enough tools to keep themselves alive

Well, we’re clones so it doesn’t matter. It’s not like anyone dies or anything.

> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> They merely have to use them

True. Tools are to be used properly.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/23 "2022-11-07T18:00:28Z")

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Oof dude, that is pretty good help and free knowhow you are giving them for free. What a luck that they won’t do it, because if they followed your advices, we, gankers, would be pretty screwed.

Well except, that it still requires a player skill, fast reactions and to be actually present and play the game.

NEPF- is really trying hard lately and it seems they actually use your fit/strategies/knowhow whether they figured it out themselves or just followed the advices in your previous “how to be successful AG” thread. But their efficiency didn’t increase much anyway as they lack in one of the requirements I listed.

And here is a fun fact. After the criminals won’t be able to dock in higsec and everyone will be forced to fix their security status, their content of hunting criminals undocking from Jita will be gone. At least after some while, it is possible that once the changes happens, or now before the changes hits the server, lowsec criminals will be trying to evacuate their ships they have in Jita en masse increasing AG content. But that won’t last long and after a while there won’t be anyone for them to engage. What will they do then?

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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/24 "2022-11-07T18:05:13Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> But that won’t last long and after a while there won’t be anyone for them to engage. What will they do then?

Mine in peace? 😄

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/25 "2022-11-07T18:09:05Z")

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They can try it. But their AG history will make them a priority number 1 target for all the remaining griefers out there. Honestly I rather gank @Githany_Red’s 0 profit venture than some bling Hulk with Ore miners. I know that would be griefing in CCP’s eyes, and I will risk a ban for doing that, but killing AG while mining is just priceless!

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/26 "2022-11-07T18:12:34Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> But how does anti-ganking help me make isk to buy a rorqual?

Actually in my other AG guide, I outlined how to do that too 😃

> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> There are way _before_ the gank, not during.

Of course there is during too. Maybe learn how to EVE?

> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> NEPF- is really trying hard lately and it seems they actually use your fit/strategies/knowhow whether they figured it out themselves or just followed the advices in your previous “how to be successful AG” thread.

They totally just took my knowledge 😃

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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/27 "2022-11-07T18:13:06Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> But their AG history will make them a priority number 1 target for all the remaining griefers out there

That’s why we have alts, no?

> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> killing AG while mining is just priceless!

It’s nice irony but again, the AG can use their mining alts and the “griefers” as you call them, won’t know the difference.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/28 "2022-11-07T18:14:22Z")

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Or people could rather fly one jump through practically empty lowsec, rather than going through the choke points.

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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/29 "2022-11-07T18:14:23Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Of course there is during too. Maybe learn how to EVE?

I am learning. Slowly but surely. I’m not in any hurry.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/30 "2022-11-07T18:14:42Z")

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Ah true. They will most likely biomass their AG chars and drop the activity completely indeed.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/31 "2022-11-07T18:14:59Z")

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> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> That’s why we have alts, no?

Not me 😃

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/33 "2022-11-07T18:17:07Z")

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It’s good when people acknowledge it 😃

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/38 "2022-11-07T19:18:38Z")

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I’ll never call it griefing

And I’m sorry to say I really don’t mine.

Cliff or one of his gankers jumped us once on a training op, that was fun and I’m sure they laughed about it, rightly so

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/39 "2022-11-07T19:28:39Z")

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> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> It’s a little sappy and not all that great but I hope you appreciate and will forgive the lack of imagination and fancy words.

I’m glad I provide meaning for you 😃

> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> And I don’t even get a like for my efforts 😒  
> Best at EVE but zero at socializing.

Huh. Are you like that Vesperscooter guy and don’t understand time zones 😃

Plus it’s a Monday 😃

> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#):
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> He cannot like your post. That would cause him trouble with his followers and the basket cases in this forum could use that against him.

? I like posts all the time 😃

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/40 "2022-11-07T20:53:34Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> -Do not bother with pods, gankers don’t carry implants

Now generally that’s true but for the tourist ganker kill pods. Tourist ganker what I mean something like a fraternity gank fleet or a goon gank fleet, they sometimes forget to change as they don’t gank all the time, even Zaenis forgot to switch once.

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**Author:** ![Most\_Moliko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/most_moliko/32/378698_2.png) [@Most\_Moliko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Most_Moliko)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/41 "2022-11-07T21:17:12Z")

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Sorry dude, you wasted the text, it has been proven that the mountain must come to the player. The player does not go to the mountain, ever.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/42 "2022-11-07T23:15:34Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> And I’m sorry to say I really don’t mine.

Well we can’t take your word on that. Hence we attack every miner we find, for a slight chance it is yours (or some other AG’s) alt. 😛

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**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/43 "2022-11-08T06:38:57Z")

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> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> I know you need appreciation and recognition for all your fantastic skills at playing an online game and no one has done it yet it seems, so here it is again, enjoy it 😃  
> When I first started EVE I never thought I’d find a role model to admire and emulate. Then I checked the forum and found this guy:  
> **Gix\_Firebrand!!**  
> It only took a few posts from him for me to figure out that he was _the_ best without equal. The more I read and the more I understood that Gix has _no_ equal, on the forum and innthe game.  
> Whatever Gix says is the ultimate truth. Any other statement by any other person is FALSE until Gix weighs in and enlightens the conversation like a forest clearing under the sun.  
> We are truly lucky to have someone like Gix around and if he didn’t exist, well, we’d have to invent him.  
> **Long Live Gix!!**  
> **Uncontested Master of EVE!!**

That was great.

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**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/44 "2022-11-08T06:39:41Z")

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> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> @Gix_Firebrand It’s a little sappy and not all that great but I hope you appreciate and will forgive the lack of imagination and fancy words

I do.

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**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/45 "2022-11-08T06:40:12Z")

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> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#):
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> He cannot like your post. That would cause him trouble with his followers and the basket cases in this forum could use that against him

Ha ha ha

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**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/46 "2022-11-08T06:41:00Z")

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We already have a Hisec Ganking Changes thread.  
This one looks more like a Trolling thread.  
@ISD_Traindriver Merge?  
How many of these useless threads are we going to have on this forum?

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