# How To Save Your Knees

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [November 7, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339 "2022-11-07T08:37:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/47 "2022-11-08T07:44:48Z")

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> [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#):
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> > [@Armorica\_Pulchra](#):
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> > He cannot like your post. That would cause him trouble with his followers and the basket cases in this forum could use that against him
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> Ha ha ha

Did someone forget to switch their sock puppets, or do you normally laugh at your own posts?

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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/48 "2022-11-08T08:21:34Z")

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I know you need appreciation and recognition for all your fantastic skills at playing an online game and no one has done it yet it seems, so here it is again, enjoy it  
When I first started EVE I never thought I’d find a role model to admire and emulate. Then I checked the forum and found this guy:  
**Gix\_Firebrand!!**  
It only took a few posts from him for me to figure out that he was the best without equal. The more I read and the more I understood that Gix has no equal, on the forum and innthe game.  
Whatever Gix says is the ultimate truth. Any other statement by any other person is FALSE until Gix weighs in and enlightens the conversation like a forest clearing under the sun.  
We are truly lucky to have someone like Gix around and if he didn’t exist, well, we’d have to invent him.  
**Long Live Gix!!  
Uncontested Master of EVE!!**

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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/49 "2022-11-08T08:23:04Z")

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This post doesn’t violate any forum rules so I repost it.

> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> @Gix_Firebrand It’s a little sappy and not all that great but I hope you appreciate and will forgive the lack of imagination and fancy words

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/50 "2022-11-08T08:29:06Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> [Kestrel, AG Fit Pursuit Fleet]

Honest question about the Kestrel fit: why use a long range fit missile platform? Wouldn’t the instant application of turret damage be preferable to the missile flight time and delayed damage application? I’m under the impression timing is everything.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/51 "2022-11-08T09:31:37Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Honest question about the Kestrel fit: why use a long range fit missile platform? Wouldn’t the instant application of turret damage be preferable to the missile flight time and delayed damage application? I’m under the impression timing is everything.

Mainly just to maintain range to keep out of range of their guns. If you wanna make it more expensive can do use t2 launchers and the short range missiles.

Cause odds are as long as you fly right, the catas won’t touch you.

You could also use arties tho. I’ll post some fits 😃

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/52 "2022-11-08T09:31:53Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Honest question about the Kestrel fit:

This is the dps but it’s a good idea to have some with range, I once jumped in on our slasher having a hard time fighting a Loki that was yellow, he decided to fight and was pulling away from gate rather than make for the gate. I was in an Oracle and behind me was a vexor, he died to my lasers and drones

When in Pursuit the important thing is tackle, then dps that can keep up so tackle doesn’t die, Oracle was not ideal but it’s dps saved the day. We also only jumped once which gave me time.

MacGybo is good at taking our tackle out before dps shows up

Ganker cats are easy to keep out of range of and that kestrel fit would work well and keep up with tackle

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/53 "2022-11-08T10:14:09Z")

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> [@JT\_Krieger](#):
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> Did someone forget to switch their sock puppets, or do you normally laugh at your own posts?

Switching toon requires effort no highsecer should be required to suffer.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/54 "2022-11-08T10:35:15Z")

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That’s why you use condors as tackle.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/55 "2022-11-08T12:00:08Z")

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I’ll take a look at the scan res and try it out.

If we are far away from backup I use a fast locking Gnosis, think I even pulled Aiko out of a fleet with that, not as fast at locking but you have tank and firepower to help

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/56 "2022-11-08T14:08:50Z")

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Nice guide Gix,

Thanks for taking your time to put this together.

Really goes to show that you care about the community, the game and the people that play it.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/57 "2022-11-08T14:22:06Z")

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> [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](#):
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> That’s why I’m for changing the Kill Mail system and these new changes as well.

Why would you lump changing kill mails into changing ganking mechanics. Why are players like you sooo concerned that someone might be able to tell they died? Over 100 times I’ve undocked and been blown up by another player. I’ve lost billions that way. The best players I know have been killed thousands of times and lost hundreds of billions worth of ships. Where does this weird fear come from?

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/58 "2022-11-08T18:58:08Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> The Art of The Anti-Gank

Still waiting for my evemail anti-gank permit from you that was paid up in full!

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/59 "2022-11-08T22:00:55Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Still waiting for my evemail anti-gank permit

Oh I can sell them and the isk are going to buy me a faction dread 😁

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/60 "2022-11-08T23:18:35Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Oh I can sell them and the isk are going to buy me a faction dread 😁

You do understand that each time I read your replies I kind of think that they are coming from the evil one.

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**Author:** ![Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gall_actyk_goddess/32/341006_2.png) [@Gall\_Actyk\_Goddess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gall_Actyk_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/61 "2022-11-09T09:56:03Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> Why would you lump changing kill mails into changing ganking mechanics

They’re already lumped in the same game.

> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> Why are players like you sooo concerned that someone might be able to tell they died?

I don’t even know what you mean there.

> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> I’ve lost billions that way. The best players I know have been killed thousands of times and lost hundreds of billions worth of ships. Where does this weird fear come from?

If you can’t understand it’s something _other_ than fear then put the whole thing away from your mind.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/62 "2022-11-10T21:45:24Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Jump Clones in all ganking hubs across space

Speaking of which, I’m sure I saw Brisc commenting on something to do with the number of allowed jump clones being increased.

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/63 "2022-11-11T13:39:57Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I’m sure I saw Brisc commenting on something to do with the number of allowed jump clones being increased.

There is always an Other way.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/64 "2022-11-11T14:04:30Z")

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Already in game, we can get 5 more jump clones with new skill Elite Imphomorph Psychology, however the price… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/65 "2022-11-16T07:17:47Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> You do understand that each time I read your replies I kind of think that they are coming from the evil one.

Why would you think that, I only mean I want a faction dread

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-save-your-knees/383339/66 "2022-11-16T09:11:00Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Why would you think that, I only mean I want a faction dread

Which one do you want?

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