# How To Wardec Non-War-Eligible Corps

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 19, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847 "2020-02-19T20:04:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/201 "2020-02-20T07:15:58Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> - See if you can get someone to join Corp and assist you to learn, given your current situation.
> - Find a defendable position in highsec.

i very much appreciate all of this. for 1 i have gotten 3 people to come teach, maybe 4. i am learning from everyone i can.  
for 2. i have a defensive position in high sec scouted (3 actually) and a plan for implementing. any more suggestions are always welcome, but since its off topic lets talk in direct messege 🙂

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/202 "2020-02-20T07:18:19Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> more suggestions are always welcome, but since its off topic lets talk in direct messege

The most important one during a war:

- don’t accept anymore applications to Corp until the war(s) are ended, unless you have a really good reason for doing so.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/203 "2020-02-20T07:20:09Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> The most important one during a war:
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> - don’t accept anymore applications to Corp until the war(s) are ended, unless you have a really good reason for doing so.

i have been saying that but that decision is higher up the food chain. ill lead ops and do what needs to be done.

can we direct messege on the forums? i tried to find a way but couldnt  
you can add me on discord Blatancy#9467

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/204 "2020-02-20T07:20:55Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> higher up the food chain

food chain is a good choice of words. You guys are on it.

> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> can we direct messege on the forums?

Not on the new forums. No.

Old forums yes, but CCP has a taste for removing features (RIP Jukebox, etc.).

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/205 "2020-02-20T07:26:27Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> food chain is a good choice of words. You guys are on it.

maybe but YEARS of gaming online in some of the most TOXIC conditions have given me the ability and experience to USUALLY suss out ■■■■■■■■ like what people say ICANP is. i just havent seen anything to make me think any of it is true.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/206 "2020-02-20T07:30:03Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> just havent seen anything to make me think any of it is true.

Which is good. Maybe he learnt his lesson last time around.

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**Author:** ![Dimitryy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dimitryy/32/416221_2.png) [@Dimitryy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dimitryy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/207 "2020-02-20T07:31:13Z")

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By the way, for anyone who says we are entirely carebears, check out our highlight from our last thrasher roam. We probably won’t have the active numbers to do this again while war is active, but once this is all over one way or another, come be our guest, roam with us!

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/208 "2020-02-20T07:32:26Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> And seriously, ICANP has _1000 members_ . With any level of competent organization a corp like that should be slaughtering anyone who declares war on them to the point that the aggressor starts begging to be allowed to surrender before the target hits the “make mutual” button.

I think people seriosuly underestimate what even 200 arty thrahsers/rail corm/beam coercers can do. Especially in hisec - all very easy to train into, extremely cheap to replace…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/209 "2020-02-20T07:34:13Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> I think people seriosuly underestimate what even 200 arty thrahsers/rail corm/beam coercers can do. Especially in hisec - all very easy to train into, extremely cheap to replace…

yes when my fleets hit high sec its going to be the doctrine of strategy + accuracy through volume

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**Author:** ![Dimitryy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dimitryy/32/416221_2.png) [@Dimitryy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dimitryy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/210 "2020-02-20T07:36:05Z")

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Agreed Darkesthan, check out my link a bit further up, we have already been using Thrashers to great effect in our null roams.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/211 "2020-02-20T07:39:38Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> we have started to take measures, but how many times is WeR4 going to be allowed to do this to EVERYONE (guys pay attention its not just us) before they get punished (if its an exploit) (it is)  
> if its not an exploit it needs to be documented

They are not doing it to everyone - only 20 or so corps. One just can’t mass spam gantries…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/212 "2020-02-20T07:40:50Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> They are not doing it to everyone - only 20 or so corps. One just can’t mass spam gantries…

still enough to justify some concern XD

look my main issue is that corps like ICANP are supposed to be SAFE. no wars. they have found a way around that and its hurting members that honestly just want to mine and explore and be left alone.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/213 "2020-02-20T07:42:13Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> still enough to justify some concern XD

Maybe it was intended… after all this does prevent mass decs.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/214 "2020-02-20T07:42:25Z")

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That’s like saying the PNS exploit to avoiding defenders having allies is ok because it’s not been done to many corps.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/215 "2020-02-20T07:42:42Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Maybe it was intended… after all this does prevent mass decs.

there is documentation that states its not intended.

> **[War Declaration Changes - The War Adjacent to Christmas | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/war-declaration-changes-the-war-adjacent-to-christmas)**
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> Check out this dev blog for the latest information on the changes coming to war declarations with the December release next week!

from the article:  
When this option is set to reject structure transfers, any attempts to transfer an Upwell structure or customs office to the corporation will be declined automatically. Transfers of sovereignty structures within the corporations of an alliance are not affected by this setting.

Customs office is specifically named

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/216 "2020-02-20T07:46:04Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> most of ICANP does NOT pvp, we dont have ships and fits for it.

No ships for pvp… really? Not even artillery thrashers? Stop spewing nonsense and excuses, at your numbers even t1 frigs are force to reckon with

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/217 "2020-02-20T07:47:37Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> No ships for pvp… really? Not even artillery thrashers? Stop spewing nonsense and excuses, at your numbers even t1 frigs are force to reckon with

its not nonsense or an excuse its a fact. we have about 10-15 active pvpers. and they mostly run around in thrashers.  
we are changing that as we discuss it here. making some changes to fleets and getting more people interested. its gonna be fun 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/218 "2020-02-20T04:06:53Z")

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Since the thread in General Discussion has devolved into… whatever it is, I’m creating this to hopefully get a proper response from CCP.

According to that thread, and [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxhgQ55ysCM), a normal corp member, with no roles, is able to anchor a customs office - therefore making the corp war-eligible.

The question is whether anchoring a customs office is _supposed_ to require the appropriate role - considering it opens up the corp to wars, it seems to me it should.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/219 "2020-02-20T04:11:41Z")

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can you ICANP kids stop spamming these threads?

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/220 "2020-02-20T04:27:10Z")

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@FC_Convict

can we get a ruling or comment on this please?

Thanks!

edit. It’s something that could be fixed simply by making a gantry deployment NOT an anchored structure for wardec purposes…

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