# How To Wardec Non-War-Eligible Corps

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 19, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847 "2020-02-19T20:04:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/281 "2020-02-20T17:02:35Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> its not nonsense or an excuse its a fact. we have about 10-15 active pvpers. and they mostly run around in thrashers.  
> we are changing that as we discuss it here. making some changes to fleets and getting more people interested. its gonna be fun

Your 1000 member carebear corp can field fewer dessies than my not even 40 member carebear corp can field battleships?  
What do you do with taxes? Should be trivial to procure couple hundred arty thrashers/rail corms/beam coercers/light missile talwars/kestrels… Red frogs can easily move 165 dessy hulls + fittings for them in contract.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/282 "2020-02-20T17:18:55Z")

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> [@Dimitryy](#):
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> These guys arn’t looking for fights, they’re not gonna fight a horde of thrashers or sit still and let us kill them.

Then blow up their structures… war HQ last. If they don’t defend you will get a bunch of killmails + prove that you are not to be trifled with. At this point you are proving that even smallest corps can wardec you and mess up your lifes… if 20 man corp can terrify your 1000 man corp then something is really, really wrong with your organization.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> That was an excellent post and a very good response to the haters.

No, it was actually wrong response. What happened to your cheering about blowing up war HQ? How about them actually making proper use of taxes to field something and go to hunt war targets or blow up their structures?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/283 "2020-02-20T17:29:26Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> What happened to your cheering about blowing up war HQ?

Dude, it’s TheDrac. Nobody has ever accused him of being consistent in his posting ramblings.

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**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/284 "2020-02-20T17:48:28Z")

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> [@Dimitryy](#):
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> Wait, are we a useless exploitation corp

Yes. Yes, you are.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/285 "2020-02-20T17:54:17Z")

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> [@Dimitryy](#):
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> If players don’t enjoy flying with us, they can leave.

I think some of them would rather war dec you. 😉

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**Author:** ![Yor\_Stoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yor_stoo/32/390951_2.png) [@Yor\_Stoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yor_Stoo)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/286 "2020-02-20T17:55:32Z")

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Regardless of who posts about a potential exploit, or a weak mechanic, the request to have the matter looked into should be acceptable to everyone, regardless of personal appreciation of OP or the group he/she is associated with. It’s in our best interests, because if this is accurate, any non-war eligible corp could fall victim. Having all rookies in NPC corporations sounds like a bad idea to me.

Looks like a very weak mechanic to me at the very least. An unanchored gantry, no roles, with no structure transfers allowed, no visibility to anyone with roles, nothing in corp assets, just by launching the darn thing you can wreak havoc ? If the idea is to go back to the old situation where any corp can be wardec’d, fine, we can deal with that. But being wardec’d while under the impression to be non-war-eligible that is most likely an oversight on the dev side.

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/287 "2020-02-20T17:56:02Z")

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So, now the real question:

What else can we do to protect new players from being pushed out of the game by this corp ?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/288 "2020-02-20T18:13:15Z")

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> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#):
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> I have to say, it is pretty damn sad that you don’t know anything of the history of this imbecile or his corp yet here you are jumping in both-feet-first to ‘defend’ it.

they were nothing but helpful to me when i was a newbro (i still am) so yes i defend them because im not a capricious ungrateful twat. if you are going to make claims like that you should provide proof beyond “go find it yourself”

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/289 "2020-02-20T18:13:55Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> These wars almost always end if you stop feeding them easy targets.

Unless, of course, your CEO runs his mouth and makes his corp a target.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/290 "2020-02-20T18:14:30Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> Your 1000 member carebear corp can field fewer dessies than my not even 40 member carebear corp can field battleships?  
> What do you do with taxes? Should be trivial to procure couple hundred arty thrashers/rail corms/beam coercers/light missile talwars/kestrels… Red frogs can easily move 165 dessy hulls + fittings for them in contract.

the point is we shouldnt have to. evidenced by the “oh ■■■■ patch” it was a bug and now its gone. gg wp.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/291 "2020-02-20T18:14:43Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Hmm, you mad bro?

I think your corp mates are mad.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/292 "2020-02-20T18:16:06Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> I think your corp mates are mad.

i think more of us want to fight and until recently we were under instructions not to. im very glad this got fixed so that all of the people in corp that have ZERO interest in pvp can go back to daily life without harassment. but im slightly annoyed it got fixed right as we are coming online with plans to deal with wer4  
@Sabus_Narian im gonna dm you on discord with an idea.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/293 "2020-02-20T18:22:50Z")

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> [@Frestal\_Dalvin\_Thellere](#):
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> “Eve - play how you want - unless you dislike constant wars with untraceable enemies against people who aren’t even skilled up on T1 ships” lol

The problem with telling people to play how they want, is that it applies to your opponents as well.

A leader of a corp should be just that. A leader. They should lead their corp, and in reward, in exchange, they get the ISK from the Taxes to do with as he wishes. If you care about your corp, your corp mates, you would not abandon them when they need you the most, and you would not risk the safety of your current corpmates by simply accepting anyone into your corp.

EVE is about freedoms, but with freedoms, comes consequences. You reap what you sow. And ICANP has been sowing a lot of seeds with their mass newbie spam evemails. Now they are reaping the consequences.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/294 "2020-02-20T18:24:58Z")

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> [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](#):
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> I quit the game because all the griefing, scuffles, nonsense, wars, chaos, smacktalk, and idiocy slowly got nerfed into a calm state of logic.

How did you get wardecced if youve never joined a corp?

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/295 "2020-02-20T18:34:06Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> my question is this: Do you have anything resembling proof? screenshots, videos, etc or are you just targeting ICANP because you have nothing better to do?

Just the fact that they are unable to actually lead their corp of thousands out of a wardec, and have to resort to petitioning and crying, is proof enough.

But if that wasnt bad enough, you have the constant amount of people creating new characters, spamming for invites, then biomassing their characters. Here is a snippet of the amount of players who have biomassed just within the course of a month.

> [@Join the ingame channel "Highsec Lobby" and help make a better highsec!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/274):
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> BTW, ive been in your corp for about 3 months now. Why are so many people biomassing in your corporation? Not just leaving eve. Theyre Biomassing their character so that they can never play again. I keep getting these notifications in my phone. Its annoying.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/eay2tg/how\_do\_i\_stop\_the\_incompetent\_and\_proud\_evemails/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/eay2tg/how_do_i_stop_the_incompetent_and_proud_evemails/)

EDIT: Sorry i didnt know you were apart of ICanP. I dont know if you are part of Incompetent and Proud, but i dont have to tell you how many of those annoying “Character has retired” notifications you were getting in the last month or two.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_alar/32/228859_2.png) [@Destiny\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Alar)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/296 "2020-02-20T18:36:58Z")

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so you dont like the fact we bio mass and send mass emails?  
how is that proof sabus uses newbros? how is that proof of anything other than we can be annoying?  
as for the biomasses, i can tell you that 4 of them were me trying our the different races and seeing what i like, then deleting the alts when i decided what i wanted to focus on when i first started playing  
Phil MyAnus was one of my first chars on eve XD

as a former wow player, and en experienced mmo player, mass emails are part of ANY mmo. and mass mail is still better than cancer addons like Super Guild Invite XD

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/297 "2020-02-20T18:39:11Z")

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And they are annoying and massively considered scam guilds in any MMO.

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**Author:** ![Medusa\_of\_Eve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/medusa_of_eve/32/188079_2.png) [@Medusa\_of\_Eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Medusa_of_Eve)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/298 "2020-02-20T18:49:54Z")

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Hmm…

> **[Phil Mi-anus | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/2115863884/)**
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> Phil Mi-anus: 75 ships destroyed and 15 ships lost.

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**Author:** ![Medusa\_of\_Eve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/medusa_of_eve/32/188079_2.png) [@Medusa\_of\_Eve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Medusa_of_Eve)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/299 "2020-02-20T18:57:11Z")

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That’s why you never wanted to attack them and mine all the time. The Phil with me is Destiny with them. Plot thickens!!

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-wardec-non-war-eligible-corps/220847/300 "2020-02-20T18:59:33Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Alar](#):
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> mass emails are part of ANY mmo

They are a shyte part and anybody sending one should be ■■■■■■■ banned from the game forever.

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