# Hunting gankers with your help **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 13, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758 "2020-09-13T20:36:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/81 "2021-01-08T12:36:24Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Someone referred to anti-gank channels in the in-game chat. What are they? Are there more than one? It’s anti-ganking which will lead to other channels the above channel is general chit-chat ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/82 "2021-01-08T12:41:38Z")
Time to try out a new idea , alas it must be done with alts, so I’ll be posting soon if it works or not . Any other ways people think we could catch them please do write in. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/83 "2021-01-08T17:46:47Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Youve made a mockery of “there’s no counterplay” arguments and thats a worthy achievement. I’m actually quite sympathetic with AGs, because there indeed **aren’t** any **practical** methods of dealing with gankers militarily. You pretty much have to sit there with fast-locking ships of your own, and kill them before they can apply their DPS. And if you’re successful, you only **prevent** the gank instead of causing any meaningful damage, because ganking ships are a sunk cost. That’s not an interesting way to play the game, and the only satisfaction you get out of it is knowing that some dumb carebear won’t lose their ship. This entire thing feels like it’s missing a bunch of game mechanics. AGs need additional tools to use against gankers, like for example something that would allow them to _capture_ them (temporarily). There also needs to be something in the game that would let victims know that they’re targets, and/or that they’ve been saved, and/or that protection exists, et cetera. For example, some kind of fee payment system that would tax miners/haulers, and pay out the tax money as rewards to “deputized” players. Gankers themselves need tools that would allow them to escape both CONCORD and player enforcers, if they’re skillful enough, which would also change the meta a bit by allowing them to use various other ships, and not only cheap destroyers, with some occasional battlecruisers for really big targets. CCP just **really** sucks at creating meaningful gameplay elements. Ganking, wars, bounty-hunting, faction warfare, are all mechanics that **desperately** need to be reworked, and have some rationality built into them. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/84 "2021-01-08T18:56:22Z")
Makes sense to me ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/85 "2021-01-08T23:41:13Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > like for example something that would allow them to _capture_ them (temporarily) Capturing ships? Kind of like Homeworld salvager ships like (if you know that game)? ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/86 "2021-01-08T23:41:49Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > them to escape both CONCORD There is no escaping CONCORD, that’s known as an exploit ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/87 "2021-01-09T00:28:02Z")
Wish they would stop messing up peoples game play with the nurf hammer. Like ew and jamming for example needed changing to stop the falcon effect but not mess with jamming but introduce a counter to it. Some item to use or a skill or ship to train that can neutralise the effect of jamming. It’s a bit like gankers, please don’t stop them by changing the game rules , they can do it if they want , it’s eve after all, but give us a bit of game play some how to make it worth our while in AG to stop them , like isk or concord loyalty points, then if we don’t counter it the ganks have it easy Can’t it be like the real world development ,take Somali pirates we didn’t take away their speed boats , we come up with ways to counter it. I’m not a games designer but sometimes things seem to develop backwards or one sided, Eve is a great game don’t mess it up. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/88 "2021-01-09T00:47:50Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > like isk or concord loyalty points, then if we don’t counter it the ganks have it easy Charge an anti-ganking service fee? X isk = one freighter jump escort? If it just gets paid out by the game that has a 100% chance of being gamed. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/89 "2021-01-11T13:10:06Z")
EVE always reminded me of Homeworld, mixed with some older games like Renegade Legion Interceptor ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/90 "2021-01-11T18:50:11Z")
It does have that tactical screen vibe of Homeworld, yes. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/91 "2021-01-13T20:05:14Z")
@Githany_Red Why were you in Ekura, bit far away from the ganking hubs. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/92 "2021-01-13T22:45:02Z")
Nice fleet indeed Kane , I was only 3 jumps away fishing for gankers, thought it’s rude not to pop by and watch the show. Nice work ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/93 "2021-01-21T18:29:18Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > My words have changed the face of Uedama forever, From the looks of it … … they really did. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Any other ways people think we could catch them please do write in. Can I help somehow? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/94 "2021-01-21T18:37:52Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Well, no, the lions are part of the ecosystem, and need to eat too. I just want to point out that … … you’re basically complaining about how the evil anti-gankers are hurting the gankers’ gameplay. This reminds me of the past. People kept telling carebears that … … if they just grouped up and organized … … they could be fighting back instead of whining on the forums. Here we are. They’re fighting back. I must ask you to stop whining on my behalf … … because I’m not whining one bit about what’s happening. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/95 "2021-01-21T18:45:14Z")
I think you’re entirely misunderstood the nature of my post. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/96 "2021-01-21T19:00:48Z")
I understand that you’re against protecting idiots from being idiots … … because that’s basically like preventing the evolutionary process from doing its work … … but it can still be seen as whining against anti-gankers. I totally agree that protecting idiots from making mistakes, and thus from learning, is a bad thing. In this regard antiganking joins the ranks of the protection button, but there’s more to it, because this is just a short sighted snapshot. In the end it’s going to be glorious, but it needs more time. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/97 "2021-01-21T19:09:38Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > … but it can still be seen as whining against anti-gankers. No, it can’t. The two have nothing in common with each other. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/98 "2021-01-21T19:32:59Z")
Yes, it can, because that’s what it is. I’m not saying it’s intentional, btw. I understand that your point is different, but it doesn’t change that it’s making gankers look weak. Ultimately it’s whining, intentionally or not. I believe it should be addressed as such, so here goes: > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I’m not against the act, I’m against the _principle_. You can get the same PvP elsewhere, but without saving ignorant, unaware players from something they don’t need to, or deserve to, be saved from. > > What they’re doing is the equivalent of going on a safari, and spooking away all the animals right before the lions go after the antelope that’s straggling at the back of the herd. It’s an act of interference in nature that stems purely from misguided emotions; “that poor antelope is about to get eaten, we need to save it before the lions get it!” Well, no, the lions are part of the ecosystem, and need to eat too. If you don’t like what they’re doing … … then I suggest you try fighting them. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/99 "2021-01-21T19:59:15Z")
I am allowed to have a personal opinion about something, and at the same time not being personally invested in it. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758/100 "2021-01-21T20:03:45Z")
I’m not saying otherwise. Just like all the carebears out there … … of whom you’re not one of course … … you’re free to complain about people doing something you and or other people dislike. I’m just saying that if you don’t like them … … then don’t complain about it to the person who’s doing it … … but instead fight that person who’s doing it, because that’s actually useful! Your tears just fuel her. : - ) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hunting-gankers-with-your-help/266758.md?page=6)