# HyperNet Relay Welcomes Scammers 🎫 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 25, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356 "2019-12-25T18:15:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/320 "2020-01-14T16:46:44Z")
CCP has done a lot of things right over the years. This isn’t one of them. Bring back Sommer and let players play. This is just another money grab that wasn’t thought out. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/321 "2020-01-14T17:04:51Z")
> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#): > > Bring back Sommer and let players play. Lol… the Hypernet lets all players set up raffles. Also you know the odds are fair as an uninterested 3rd party in each raffle. Blink only benefited Sommer, along with their RMT. Several player run gambling/raffle (not sure about blink) sites were loading the odds in their favor to cheat the players rather than having fair raffles. ---
**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/322 "2020-01-14T17:07:15Z")
So CCP figured out how to funnel the profits back to themselves. Maybe they played the long game on this one… ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/323 "2020-01-14T17:10:47Z")
> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#): > > CCP figured out how to funnel the profits back to themselve Better them than some random player on the internet. At least CCP having profits means the game is funded and devs salaries are paid. CCP made the game, it’s their IP and it’s their duty to protect the use of their IP, especially from 3rd parties monetizing it without permission. ---
**Author:** ![Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wal-mart_greeter/32/303152_2.png) [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wal-Mart_Greeter)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/324 "2020-01-16T17:07:12Z")
> [@Algathas](#): > > it’s their IP That is funded by players. No? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/325 "2020-01-16T19:58:24Z")
Like with every product, we are customers that pay for it, then product can be delivered. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/326 "2020-01-16T20:31:53Z")
> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#): > > That is funded by players. No? As a player you have no say in what CCP does with their IP, other than to not pay for their product if you don’t like it, and you certainly don’t have the right to make money from CCP’s IP without their permission. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/328 "2020-01-20T11:49:10Z")
> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#): > > No big surprise here, the HyperNet Relay is chaulked full of scammers. One guy put a Vanquisher up, bought 114 of 512 Nodes and walked away with the Vanquisher and 233b ISK. Green offers aren’t even guaranteed to be a “good deal”. Do your research before you buy those lottery tickets. 🎫 > > I see a lot of people putting items up for 200% of their cost and buying half the tickets. 50/50 they will break even OR receive the item and 100% of the cost. Pretty sad really. Working as intended… Cripes, these new players. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Aisman\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisman_ellecon/32/273932_2.png) [@Aisman\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisman_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/329 "2020-01-25T02:59:29Z")
Я думаю если другого не умеют пусть машеничают) на то и игра) ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/330 "2020-01-25T08:33:55Z")
> [@Aisman\_Ellecon](#): > > Я думаю если другого не умеют пусть машеничают) на то и игра) Wrong forum. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/331 "2020-01-27T00:18:28Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Example any vid of a game that does not use only ingame footage, or mix both without a clear distinction of what is the game and what is not, is a scam. So yeah CCP is used to scamming people in their game. Oh my God, dude. Your butthurt, does it know no bounds? ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/332 "2020-01-29T21:55:54Z")
> [@Suleman\_Tazinas](#): > > Returned after several years. I find it hilarious that CCP has brought back the Somer Blink gambling to EVE as their own. > > What next? CCP Bonus Room? 🙂 This is my first thought, though it IS preferable to Somer in the same way that PLEX is preferable to RMTers. I still think that having a lottery mini-game in this spaceship MMO is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Zercix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zercix/32/378921_2.png) [@Zercix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zercix)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/333 "2020-01-30T03:46:24Z")
> [@Wal-Mart\_Greeter](#): > > putting items up for 200% of their cost That is pretty much how raffles work in the real world. As for the part about how their character buys a bunch of the tickets and wins, well losing is part of the gamble with raffles and as long as the raffle is legit then no harm no foul as the slots were paid for to be able to participate. ---
**Author:** ![Far\_Wanderer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/far_wanderer/32/452265_2.png) [@Far\_Wanderer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Far_Wanderer)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/334 "2020-02-14T05:16:39Z")
Sometimes I win. Sometimes I loose. What matters is that I’m having fun on the HyperNet Relay. The crazy part is when I forget to check the item’s location before I play. It’s been fun flying to regions I have never been to before. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hypernet-relay-welcomes-scammers/208356/335 "2020-05-14T05:16:39Z")
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