# I accept responsibility for my losses. But EVE is starting to feel like a second job **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** null-sec, pve, pvp\ **Created:** [October 1, 2026, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424 "2026-10-01T20:58:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Rusinn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rusinn/32/513940_2.png) [@Rusinn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rusinn)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2026, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424/42 "2026-10-05T17:46:49Z")
you know nothing about ratting… vagabond? mate you will get 5 m tick with that good ticks ±150m require around 15b setup (3 accounts). setup is ultra safe, been ratting every day for more than a year with it and never lost a ship. Just never use bastion and give some attention to polarized modules in pve blingy ship is not a problem. problem is using bastion in providence 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tikka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tikka/32/508952_2.png) [@Tikka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tikka)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2026, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424/43 "2026-10-06T05:09:29Z")
I understand your frustration, but it is often a risk-versus-reward situation. It happened in 0.0, and the fact that you used a marauder doesn’t help either. I love those ships, but once they commit to a fight, they can’t just leave, and without that, they would be too good. You already said you know what the better safety measures would have been, and I understand that you sometimes just want a relaxed session. Have you thought about having a jump clone in the empire and doing some content there when you want a more relaxed session? A bomber gang could still blip you out, but that does not happen that often. Another thing that could help is using an ECM ship as a 3rd ship to help you get out, but that only works if you don’t opt in for a marauder. ---
**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/516264_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2026, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424/44 "2026-10-06T21:37:10Z")
Aren’t you choosing to not play Eve because of the skill queue? And yet here you are from last week claiming to be a grizzled veteran. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_Girll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bad_girll/32/509750_2.png) [@Bad\_Girll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bad_Girll)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2026, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424/46 "2026-10-11T09:39:09Z")
Skill issue ![skil isue](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/8/1/38108620c80ade991d841395ecf11c8874b1b7a7.png) ---
**Author:** ![Commander\_Abitis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_abitis/32/428866_2.png) [@Commander\_Abitis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Abitis)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424/47 "2026-10-12T16:38:46Z")
when has eve not been a second job, been this way since it’s beta, don’t know what you’re complaining about, stop letting AI write your eve topics [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-accept-responsibility-for-my-losses-but-eve-is-starting-to-feel-like-a-second-job/519424.md?page=2)