# I am a Minmatar leader of loyalist capsuleers for soon two decades - AMA

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [January 10, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278 "2023-01-10T15:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/41 "2023-01-12T12:02:18Z")

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In the past 20 years, how often have you been awoken in the middle of the night by a nightmare in which the Angel Cartel were flying vertical Naglfars that were the _wrong way up_ ?  
Or worse, _horizontal_ Naglfars ?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/42 "2023-01-12T12:12:44Z")

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> [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> In the past 20 years, how often have you been awoken in the middle of the night by a nightmare in which the Angel Cartel were flying vertical Naglfars that were the _wrong way up_ ?  
> Or worse, _horizontal_ Naglfars ?

While a fun meme, these are not things that feature in my many nightmares.

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**Author:** ![Karmilla\_Strife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karmilla_strife/32/439678_2.png) [@Karmilla\_Strife](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karmilla_Strife)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/43 "2023-01-12T14:44:50Z")

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Over the years you’ve shared your thoughts on many faults and flaws of the Amarr. Is there anything you find positive about Amarrian culture or society, and if so, could you share what that is?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/44 "2023-01-12T15:08:41Z")

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> [@Karmilla\_Strife](#):
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> Over the years you’ve shared your thoughts on many faults and flaws of the Amarr. Is there anything you find positive about Amarrian culture or society, and if so, could you share what that is?

Not positive enough to be a redeeming factor, let me make that clear.

But many Amarrian freeborn and nobility have the ability to conduct themselves with grace even in face of adversity. They don’t _make scenes_. It reminds me of some traditional Brutor militant conduct. Stoic and dignified and all that.

I feel the culture in general recognizes well the value of duty and setting aside your personal preferences in order to pursue it. Even if I take objection to defining, say, Reclaiming as a duty, the ability to do what one believes is the right thing bravely even when it is not pleasant is a personal virtue.

Many of your people are loyal to a fault to their kin, just like mine are. One has to respect that, even when it leads to tragedy and war.

And of course, there is art, martial and secular, verbal and visual, in the Empire. When we think of Amarr spirituality we tend to think of the Rite, and scripture that is fixed, but many Amarr people, high and low on the rungs of your society, are spiritual beyond that. There are stories and myths there, and songs and spoken poetry, that can delight a Keeper of Traditions, the rare times there is opportunity to hear them in a way that is genuine and not laced with a wish to Reclaim.

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**Author:** ![Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kitaula_kuusa_jouhinen/32/498716_2.png) [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kitaula_Kuusa_Jouhinen)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/45 "2023-01-13T07:53:25Z")

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Where do you think the future of the diplomatic relations between the State and Republic will go? Do you think there’ll ever be reason for actual war between the two, beyond this conflict-by-adjacency?

How about your opinions on the Angels? The Deathless? Serpentis?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/46 "2023-01-13T10:39:43Z")

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> [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](#):
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> Where do you think the future of the diplomatic relations between the State and Republic will go? Do you think there’ll ever be reason for actual war between the two, beyond this conflict-by-adjacency?

In a different universe where the State and the Republic would exist without the realities of the bigger nations, I cannot really see a good reason for a war between those two. I find us similar in many remarkable ways, both political and cultural, and we both share the healthy respect for independent tribes/corporations/etc right to govern themselves.

I employ several State mercenaries and expats and there has not really been any significat discomfort about them mixing with my tribe-born pilots and staff, certainly no more than we experience with Feds.

Sadly with the rising international tensions I think we are locked in the conflict-by-adjacency. Neither of us can afford to lose our allies.

> [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](#):
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> How about your opinions on the Angels? The Deathless? Serpentis?

Official line is I don’t care as long as they stay out of Tribal space. Personally, I have little dealings with the latter two and so do not really have strong opinions beyond take-your-crimes-elsewhere. Angels… I have a varied history and some serious personal beef with and if the slave-trading drug-pushing scum all walked out of an airlock without a spacesuit I can’t say I’d be too sorry, even if a few individuals I have an irrational soft spot for would have to join them.

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/47 "2023-01-16T14:09:05Z")

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Two related questions, purely matters of opinion:

1. After all this time, what’s your opinion these days of Jade Constantine? Are there old faces you might consider emblematic of the early independent capsuleer days?
2. Which speakers or philsophically-inclined capsuleers over the years do you consider to have been particularly prescient or insightful?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/48 "2023-01-17T06:09:27Z")

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> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> After all this time, what’s your opinion these days of Jade Constantine? Are there old faces you might consider emblematic of the early independent capsuleer days?

Jade was a forceful speaker and demagogue, who did not hesitate to use her skill for to gain and keep power. She was ruthless and sharp and absolutely dedicated to whatever job she had taken up at each time and to her core ideology. You couldn’t _reason_ with Jade - you could get the illusion that you were, but she wasn’t engaged in discussion, she was engaged in finding weaknesses in your arguments so she could shoot them down. She was like a force of nature like that, and the argument she understood was force. She was clever enough, most of the time, to see where the force was before she pushed herself into it, which gave the impression that she negotiated - but she really did not, she just figured where she could go and where she couldn’t and worked from that.

In the end, that nature was what finished off her career, too, I think. Maybe it got into her head, or maybe she wasn’t as good on an individual level as she was on the organizational? I wasn’t privy exactly to what went on behind those scenes, but my impression is Jade over-reached and imagined she was supremely skillful in the kind of control and manipulation she did. When it turned out that people close to her saw through it and did not approve, she had no means, no personal _mana_, to pull through that. Her circles splintered, and that was the beginning of the downfall.

Personally? I didn’t like her. Too much posturing, thought too highly of herself, did not listen. Then again, she probably thought the same of me.

I kind of miss Jade. But I miss everyone from those times. I’m old enough for nostalgia. I expect I would change my mind fast if she reappeared.

> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> Which speakers or philsophically-inclined capsuleers over the years do you consider to have been particularly prescient or insightful?

It is difficult to name only a few names above others; maybe what insightfulness we have had has more been between us than by any one of us? And we have always been products of the time. But one Makoto Priano comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/49 "2023-01-20T18:32:25Z")

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> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> Are there old faces you might consider emblematic of the early independent capsuleer days?

Oh, I see I missed a question.

I don’t know about emblematic, but including but not limited to, some people who had a name in the public spheres relevant to me already when I entered them include:

Jade Constantine  
Maggot (did you ever pay out that 1 isk?)  
Viqer Fell  
Hardin  
Einheriar Ulrich  
Lyria Lightbringer (stay crazy!)  
Makkar  
Rodj Blake (die in a fire)  
Randuin MaraL  
AsheRaven  
GoGo Yubari  
Tomahawk Bliss  
zoolkhan (I still have your gift)  
Horatio Starkiller  
Darius Shakor (5/5 would stab again)  
Golan Trevize

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**Author:** ![MantelGlobalIndustries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mantelglobalindustries/32/380599_2.png) [@MantelGlobalIndustries](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MantelGlobalIndustries)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/50 "2023-01-25T22:37:35Z")

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Congratulations on your two decades! You are a representative of a fascinating generation of Pilot-Captains that preceded my own, in those halcyon years of independent capsuleers.

What would you say are the biggest challenges facing the alliance between the Federation and the Republic, and what are your opinions on the alliance itself. Could we be doing better, or are there concerns that you feel need to be addressed?

As you know I am committed to strengthening the bonds that tie the Federation and the Republic together in our mutual pursuit of liberty and justice, so I would be interested to hear your thoughts on what you believe we could be doing better.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/51 "2023-01-27T20:00:41Z")

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> [@MantelGlobalIndustries](#):
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> What would you say are the biggest challenges facing the alliance between the Federation and the Republic, and what are your opinions on the alliance itself. Could we be doing better, or are there concerns that you feel need to be addressed?

I find this the hardest question so far. Not because the answer is painful - there were plenty of those before - but simply because I do not know what to say.

If you ask me, the Republic owes a blood debt to the Federation. Without you we would not exist.

What talk can there be of “concerns”, where such binding bonds exist?

Can ice do better than freeze? Can fire do better than burn?

To deny such a debt is _ohnesh_.

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**Author:** ![DutchGunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dutchgunner/32/378183_2.png) [@DutchGunner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DutchGunner)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/52 "2023-02-02T07:15:06Z")

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Considering the more recent … developments. How likely do you believe the Empires are heading towards total war? What do you think is going to happen with those who have worked for the betterment of all instead of joining the conflict?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/53 "2023-02-02T17:31:43Z")

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> [@DutchGunner](#):
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> How likely do you believe the Empires are heading towards total war? What do you think is going to happen with those who have worked for the betterment of all instead of joining the conflict?

I have seen half a dozen The War scares since I became a capsuleer and I have learned to not make predictions. If it happens, it happens.

If this is the big one, we all do what we must. Some of us will pick a side. Some will run to the fringes. Some will stay as they are and work what they can in rescue and relief.

I for one do not think anyone needs to fear retribution for not having picked a side earlier - not among the Tribes, anyway. Looks will be given but when are they ever not? One does one’s best, with Fate and Luck.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/54 "2023-02-05T19:42:05Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> I am Elsebeth Shaninn, of Rhiannon, born Rhiannon, mother to the Chief of Rhiannon, member of the Sebiestor Tribe, independent capsuleer, CEO of SoE Roughriders, former CEO of Gradient, former executor and current head diplomat / quartermaster of Electus Matari.
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> In honor of this year of remembrance about to begin - ask me anything.

Anything?  
Are you trying to beat Lord Vaari’s title list?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/55 "2023-02-05T20:37:37Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> Are you trying to beat Lord Vaari’s title list?

Those are not titles. They are the associations relevant to this conversation. They give context to possible questions, and some idea of both my apparent biases and relevant special knowledge.

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**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/56 "2023-02-15T09:31:44Z")

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What would you be doing, if you hadnt become a capsuleer?

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**Author:** ![Jesoph\_Swolin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jesoph_swolin/32/383423_2.png) [@Jesoph\_Swolin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jesoph_Swolin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/57 "2023-02-15T10:12:02Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> In honor of this year of remembrance about to begin - ask me anything.

One of the things I have struggled with since I became a Capsuleer is unfiltered access to galnet at all times when I am plugged in. Not just because this means that it becomes uncomfortably easy to drown in the squabbling of all sorts of people of all creeds and colours, but also because checking peoples losses often entails laying mine eyes upon some truly cursed ship fitting schemes. I have long since stopped bothering to inquire or offer counsel, but it has remained unpleasant to witness such things. This leads me to the question: Does it ever become less painful to witness everyone’s opinions and decisions, and the effects these have on others, or will it remain torture indefinitely?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/58 "2023-02-15T15:53:13Z")

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> [@Cain\_Aloga](#):
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> What would you be doing, if you hadnt become a capsuleer?

I would likely be the Chief of Rhiannon by now.

Thank all good gods and spirits for protecting both me and the clan from that. 😉

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/59 "2023-02-15T15:55:19Z")

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> [@Jesoph\_Swolin](#):
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> Does it ever become less painful to witness everyone’s opinions and decisions, and the effects these have on others, or will it remain torture indefinitely?

You need to learn to pace yourself. Take times to disconnect, go out, “get dressed, get drunk, get laid, not necessarily in that order”, as certain friend of mine described the getting out of pod and out of the capsuleer headspaces process.

That said, some people _will_ remain painfully stupid.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-a-minmatar-leader-of-loyalist-capsuleers-for-soon-two-decades-ama/391278/60 "2023-05-16T15:55:48Z")

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