# I AM LOOSING EVE & FAREWELL **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [May 19, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489 "2021-05-19T21:32:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wyz\_Rydr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyz_rydr/32/274306_2.png) [@Wyz\_Rydr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyz_Rydr)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/21 "2021-05-21T17:53:22Z")
Hey Blue, I hope U dont go, but if U must, then dont give Ur stuff away. Leave Ur acct. 4 if U have a break & maybe come back sometime. I dont care much 4 the Polotics, (Bollotics.!) but the little I talked with U, U r a very decent person, maniac or not.! šŸ™‚ I wish now that I had played with U more, 2 at least pay back a little. ā˜¹ TC & love from, Wyz. ---
**Author:** ![Lasse\_R\_Farnsworth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasse_r_farnsworth/32/274354_2.png) [@Lasse\_R\_Farnsworth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasse_R_Farnsworth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/22 "2021-05-21T21:38:29Z")
I will always be thankful for what you have done for RvB and will always fondly remember the fights we had. We will see each other in space ā€¦ or in another game ā€¦ the world is a small place. Find happyness in your family ā€¦ And thanks for everything. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/23 "2021-05-21T22:46:26Z")
@bluelysian - All the best to you and your family in future. o7 ---
**Author:** ![nitro\_oxide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitro_oxide/32/274369_2.png) [@nitro\_oxide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/nitro_oxide)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/24 "2021-05-21T23:23:05Z")
Itā€™s been emotional sunshine! What fantastic work you done in RL! Sadly the nature of eve is someone always gets hurt, sadly this time it was you. Enjoy winning eve and hopefully you will find somewhere else to put your talents to good use. See you on the dance floor one day sunshine, till that day take care of yourself! Much love nitro ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Sally](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_sally/32/268113_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Sally](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Sally)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/25 "2021-06-18T19:44:40Z")
> [@bluelysian](#): > > For building assets I have liquidized Bluelsyian greatly and also used over 6000 euro to build up RVB assets and finance all Red vs Blue Flight Academy ā€¦ helping new pilots answering questions sorting logistics building up connections ā€¦ solving conflictsā€¦ > 9 months I never argue with people, never brake heartsā€¦ when I see a conflict I seek for privacy to talk about and I took everything with bona fide ā€¦ Be honest straight and clean > I did wish RvB as open door corporation say welcome warmly everybody even for the old management members.Who are also hurt me in the past a lotā€¦ but I never hold grudges or no hard feelings ā€¦ > But my will around this vetoed by people currently holding the ropes of RVBā€¦ And reason was their personal conflicts and revenge ā€¦ and they did kick so many players because of their own ego and power tripsā€¦ > Same people ā€¦ who were also far older RVB members than me, same people who know each other and ā€œfriendsā€ I was just an outsider for them who hold all RVB shares in her hands ( HOW DAREE MEE ! ) . After all those hard work for years for the sake of RVB spirit and traditionā€¦ RVB begin to gain prestige again it has heartbeat activity increasing and finally had begin to get some attention and hope for prosperityā€¦ SO CEO seats and shares become precious gainā€¦ And such a heresy it has been in the hands of ā€œ Bluelysian ā€œ and that little ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  has been having too much love and careā€¦ > That was a problem for them that must be solved swiftly! > Trap was waterproofā€¦ they went around and told lies about me ā€¦ smear campaign with a pinch of psych war tacticsā€¦ They had invested and used RVB s assets and sources to finance their plan ā€¦ Assets and sources I gave to their service so they can use for behalf of RvBā€¦ > SO simply they stab me with a knife made of my own flesh and bonesā€¦ > They went to one of RvB eldersā€¦ normally you canā€™t see him around ā€¦ but that person holds server host and rights for all RVB forums ( which contains over a decade of history and legacy of the RVB ) and web pageā€¦ > As a result, he came to me and based on lies he had been told ( for exampleā€¦ he had been told im planning to kick one of them )asked me to hand over RVB sharesā€¦ > I was chokedā€¦ Reality sank very heavy. That what they had been doingā€¦ how much I had been blindā€¦ > If I havenā€™t give the shares and kick the people who plotted this ā€¦ then they will look like right in front of the community and all their lies will be legitimizedā€¦ and look like truth ā€¦ > This is how you can force a man to leave who has habited to act on honor and dignity. It doesnā€™t have to be always a gun to someones headā€¦ > After that they ban me from RVB discordā€¦ they made a quick community meeting and in that meeting, they told everybody that : SHE LEFT US! She had been mentally and Physically sick ā€¦ tired worn outā€¦Leave her alone! > Discord ban result of great butchery with my personal direct messages people couldnā€™t reach out to me and I couldnā€™t reach out people anymore due to not sharing same serverā€¦ When they write something to DM they got the message like this person either blocked you ect ectā€¦ and this was the first wave on their isolation and alienizing planā€¦ > I did get into local and asked why did they do that why did they needā€¦ they told people to block me ingame ā€¦ I even didnā€™t know who blocked me who not why when ā€¦ > Recently I have learn they discard and kick another dedicated RvB veteran after using himā€¦ they have used him for set things uphe used lot of time and effortsā€¦ then kicked him later blackmail him and life threats to shut his mouth and disappearā€¦ ( same person who also threatened me aka friend of CCP head of London aka the one scouting me on LinkedIn ) Familiar? > I did do my best to explain myself to the community but I failedā€¦ Most of them turned their back to me instantly and that was beyond my understanding ā€¦ herd psych was real and alive ā€¦ > I do not regret for all my efforts to open peoples ayesā€¦ I want them to make their decision based on truthā€¦ But I realized most of them doesnā€™t give any ā– ā– ā– ā–  and they donā€™t careā€¦ some of them was with me but they couldnā€™t open their mouth because everybody who asked ā€œWhy blue left ? ā€œ kicked and banned from RVBā€¦ that include also my brotherā€¦ And if someone askā€¦ answer was donā€™t know ā€¦ drama dramaā€¦ she left usā€¦ but they never give a proper answer to people who askā€¦ > > I had many friends in EVE first time they come back game they check in with meā€¦ And these people also get the similar answers but no further help or infoā€¦ > I have been always act on love and compassion as well as in real life ā€¦I do always valued honesty ā€¦ and after what these old RVB leaders done I trusted the heart of community ā€¦ I was wrongā€¦ > I loved those people and cared them ā€¦ it was like home for me and familyā€¦ it was likeā€¦ no matter what happensā€¦ what has been told and doneā€¦ we could find a way to home and take all light heartedā€¦ It was a video game yesā€¦ but also a game we shared lot of laughters cheers and helping some of us in our real lifes most difficult timesā€¦ and give us an outletā€¦ > > I lost my cheersā€¦ I still love EvE a lotā€¦ 2 months passed but my pain is still thereā€¦ > I have cancel my subscriptions alreadyā€¦ But its really hard while my husband sitting near by me and playing EVE and im listening fleet comms and their talksā€¦ My brother calling me over discord he talks non stop about market economy and all crazy isk making ā€¦ > Even they know how much im in pain they just cant help itā€¦ people still writing to me asking questions fits, tacticsā€¦ I will possibly keep hosting more EVE players for dinner invitationsā€¦ > Yes I do quit EVE with my heart bleed .I didnā€™t want it .But I have toā€¦ because simply RVB spirit and tradition has been only way I do breath in this gameā€¦ And only way that I can exist ā€¦ > What is hurting me mostā€¦ People who did thisā€¦ They also know this how much it means to me and how much pain inflictā€¦ but they did it anywayā€¦ for their greedinessā€¦ for their egoā€¦ > for having seats and Titles ā€¦ > In a Video gameā€¦ Real life threatsā€¦ smear campaignsā€¦ blackmailing to shut my mouth ā€¦ this is too much for having a title in a video gameā€¦ But I think they need it ā€¦ they want it that muchā€¦ I know you but you donā€™t know me. No matter. I wanted to let you know that you influenced me in a positive way and Iā€™m sorry what happened to you. Just knowing what happened to you makes me want to **thow up** on CCP!! And employee(s) of CCP colluding with corporation fatcats in underhanded deals and disgusting behaviorā€¦ I did suspect that some CCP employees were having huge advantages over the rest of the players and doing some crap behind the scenes but I thought it was my imagination or paranoia. Well, this ugly story confirms the reality I thought was paranoia. Now I **know**. I will never look at CCP the same way. Losers. Thank you, Bluelysian, for everything. ā¤ ---
**Author:** ![Moriar\_theChosen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moriar_thechosen/32/368191_2.png) [@Moriar\_theChosen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moriar_theChosen)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/26 "2021-06-18T21:41:59Z")
Vision Thing Achasse, hmmmmā€¦ I donā€™t know anything about this current drama, but he used to farm new bros in a RLML Prophecy with a full slave set on the station undockā€¦ I loved a lot of RvB folks though. \<3 @Bluelysian Donā€™t quit!! So many good folks here love you. ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Evelyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_evelyn/32/419720_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Evelyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Evelyn)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/27 "2021-09-05T01:15:44Z")
Can I have (more) of your stuff? In all seriousness, spending that much real life money on EVE is a recipe for disaster. When thereā€™s 6k on the line, itā€™s going to be stolen at some point. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/28 "2021-09-12T16:57:21Z")
Took only 3 months for Vision and his ā€œ eager beaversā€ to ruin RvB . Begining of the summer they announced all other management members step down from their seats and they handover everything to Vision Thing Achasse . They stop recruiting to Red Federation and Blue Republic. Academy had zero events and activity. They kept people by filling them lies ā€¦ they told them numbers will pick upā€¦ But they havenā€™t done anything at all ā€¦ activity hit to zero from thousands of kills weekly. [https://rvbeve.com](https://rvbeve.com) He burned down RvB and ruined for his personal ego, grudges and incompetence. Ban and block so many community members to cover up his lies and isolate rest of the community and keep them cluelessā€¦ Ruled and tortured RvB with stone hard fascism last couple of monthsā€¦ You can not even join RvB discord without e-mail and telephone number anymoreā€¦ And community drown into his toxicity like frog boiling ā€¦ Hide behind the curtainsā€¦ Hide behind the curtainsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Thomas\_Jer0me\_Newton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thomas_jer0me_newton/32/281035_2.png) [@Thomas\_Jer0me\_Newton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thomas_Jer0me_Newton)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/29 "2021-09-12T18:29:55Z")
Why not come back and build something new? Success is the best revenge as they say. ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Evelyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_evelyn/32/419720_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Evelyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Evelyn)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/30 "2021-09-13T08:21:28Z")
The best revenge is scamming 4 bil off someone who scammed my friend, and kicked me and hired PIRAT to bash my empty Raitaru because I suicide ECMā€™d someone who was cheating by using high grade implants and valuable modules, when bluelysian specifically banned it. This person was only in the corp for 2 days and apparently they mattered more than one of her longest membersā€¦ I had helped a lot with proofreading whatever website was up in late 2019 as well. None of that mattered to youā€¦ The irony is that blue trusting random new players is what lost her 4 bil. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/31 "2021-09-13T08:39:43Z")
I remember that event .I have already give you billions sievert and reimbursed you uncountable times and i did help you at defence of your citadel . . And i was aware when you join RvB but i did not kick you . . Because it was RvB and i wont bring my personal stuff and just ban someone because of scam me . I have kicked you because you have landed 3. Party EcM to 1v1 honoured fight. BIG NO NO. If you hold onto your descency, loose the ship like a man , and tell be he has implants and its forbiddedā€¦ then i implant check him and if thats true i kick him and reimburse your loss fully. You know i do that because i did it for everybody. If you need ISK you would come and ask meā€¦ but you did not . Instead you made a character claim that you are a kid ā€¦ and roll that insane contractā€¦ and i accepted quickly because this amount was too much for a kid to waste put of their parents knowledge and i decided to contact CCP and inform and keep the plex safe ā€¦ You simply used my maternal instincts, my compassion , and my care to scam me. This is no matter what ā€¦ not loss for meā€¦ This is loss for your honour dignity and personalityā€¦ as minor and autistic, i know you dont have any conscience, you dont have any grab on some of social context and values By acting like that. , you just reveal your own personality and your qualityā€¦ 4 bil is lot of money for youā€¦ For meā€¦ comparing the amount i have give away to New pilots of EVE and used on charity eventsā€¦.its a little sand on the beachā€¦ But i can see how much it fills you stillā€¦ It is very sad to see you like that ā€¦ And no after what you didā€¦ just because of someone scam me ā€¦ i never stop holding onto well intentions and help ā€¦ If you want to keep ā– ā– ā– ā–  post this threadā€¦ I strongly suggest you to read many respected Veterans comments up thereā€¦ You dont need to wee wee on graves in the cemetary. I will not answer your further comments . Act descent if you can ---
**Author:** ![Jennifer\_Evelyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jennifer_evelyn/32/419720_2.png) [@Jennifer\_Evelyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jennifer_Evelyn)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/32 "2021-09-13T09:34:23Z")
He refused to kill me. I had to go, I was still new enough to not know the self destruct feature existed. He bragged about his implants mid fight. I asked you to reimburse the citadel and all you did was talk about the ECM. I had 3 alts that could fly tornados, I just wanted to leave for my appointment. I could have blown him to smithereens, that thing was 3b+ and I had dual webs + scram, surprised no one had scanned it and ganked it already. I knew I had lost, he wouldnā€™t let me lose. Said ā€˜wait for blueā€™, etc. Thatā€™s also when he bragged about his implants. I also never told you I bought plex, not sure where you are getting that. I made up some story about finding a ton of valuable items and posting the contract in your public channel, but that was about it. I just said I found them in a random can, lol. I asked for no more than reimbursement for the citadel. You wouldnā€™t even provide that. If he wanted some dumb Brutix kill he could have killed me, but he didnā€™t and instead held me, not even for ransom just to ā€˜trollā€™ me. And apparently using some stupid suicide griffin is worse than using HG asklepians and a blingy ship, and also holding me for no reason, this is against many rules of the corp. The fact that I didnā€™t ECM him or gank him once I found out (because he bragged about it) is that I actually wanted to be somewhat honorable in the face of a cheater. But, holding me for laughs was crossing the line, I had to go and couldnā€™t play those games. If I actually was just in it for the ISK I would have absolutely ganked a 3b deimos, the thing would melt to EMP nados. And then he pays 5 billion to kill a 500 million citadel. That was ridiculous. So the fact that you thought that was OK pissed me off. I wanted to get a spy into your corp to scam the Ark you had, since you had previously lent me a Providence I wanted to infiltrate and gain trust in order to steal it. That didnā€™t work and I got kicked, but not for scamming, just another inaccuracy. So, I figured if I made up some story and posted a fake contract in your channel, you would accept it because you would think it was a legitimate mistake and didnā€™t want someone else to scam me. Thatā€™s exactly what happened. It is extraordinarily stupid to spent 8,000 dollars on a game. The only reason 4b was nothing to you, was that you were buying plex. You had no source of income. This has to be the worst reason to buy 8k of plex as well, because CCP should be the ones spending money on new player retention. Youā€™re literally paying to do CCPā€™s job. Itā€™s not wrong to help new players, but spending 8k is monumentally stupid. Youā€™d be better off wiring it to a Nigerian prince. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/33 "2021-09-13T09:35:35Z")
Just a thought I had since some time and guess why not ask when at it as you are active again: Why did you use your orca (or whatever shipā€™s) fleet hangar to distribute the free ships when you could just do that either through contracts and/or through direct trade window docking up at a station or structure? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/34 "2021-09-13T10:03:15Z")
I am not active in-game. But I am still connected to the community. And actually, I am working on an idea. Kind of a new concept and content. The best part is this can eliminate so many obstacles I had been dealing with before. My first project was the success that lead to the RVB project and there well visibly I failed. you know We have everything to make it work. I donā€™t like to just give fish @Uriel_the_Flame. I did that a lot ā€¦ also to make it more fun I tried something in Amarr for some time. I have been dropping some properly fitted ships to safe spots and announce in local so people combat scan down if they find it they can have it. But that is not really productive I do always love to teach how to catch fish more than just give fish ā€¦ I really love to see people learning and sailing through challenges and achieve themselves, grow and see them be proud of themselves and content. I have reasons to stay away even I do want a lot to come back and I miss a loot. IF these reasons ease away. I canā€¦ Just believe me ā€¦ shouldnā€™t be so hard to see for youā€¦ I am cracking here. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/35 "2021-09-13T10:11:50Z")
I was referring to the fact that some guy was able to grab hundreds of these ships from your fleet hangar if I recall correctly, was sometime I read that post. So you can keep the games and achievement based handout but those who earned it would receive the reward / gift through a contract or trade window instead of exposing your fleet hangar to strangers. This is what I was asking about. ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/36 "2021-09-13T10:12:49Z")
Sievertā€¦ i am not your enemy boy ā€¦ what you are telling in these last paragraphsā€¦ straight TRUTH. i am stupidā€¦ i feel so very badlyā€¦ Before RvB it was not issue for me to make isk in a very short time. I am customised to make isk with isk ā€¦ just like real lifeā€¦ so i didnt need to buy so much plex at allā€¦ but after took over RvB i had no time anymore ā€¦ i couldnt find a time even tojpin funz and enjoy the fightsā€¦ i had been constantly feeding the bowheads and fiddling with diplomacy , management and orientationā€¦ i have been much more in space when i have been with you guysā€¦ while people having funss outsideā€¦ Ofiicially most of my undocks were only for training and class purposeā€¦ else forgeting my ships in space constant and get myself ganked. While i was taking care of things on comms. Wow sounds like such miserable ---
**Author:** ![bluelysian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluelysian/32/423769_2.png) [@bluelysian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bluelysian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/37 "2021-09-13T10:16:28Z")
Ah ā€¦ it was open public event . Open to all New Pilotsā€¦ and ships were all free and they were reshipping unlimitedā€¦ im talking about bat ā– ā– ā– ā–  crazy explotion traffic ā€¦like Rookie system shining in the map like big reddest shiniest apple in the activity map ā€¦ and i have been in space most of the time ā€¦ to explain them like this is MWD this is AB ā€¦ this scramble this is disruptorā€¦ how this worksā€¦ i cannot make contracts and keep things flow at the same timeā€¦ i cant make hundreds of contracts for so many people non stop ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/38 "2021-09-13T10:17:33Z")
I see makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-loosing-eve-farewell/312489/39 "2021-12-12T10:17:55Z")
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