# I am shocked at the merc profesion!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [May 25, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628 "2018-05-25T21:08:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/61 "2018-10-12T17:45:55Z")

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I am still shocked at the merc profesion and the lack of any noticable change!

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/62 "2018-10-13T18:39:30Z")

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Topic moved to Crime and Punishment

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**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/63 "2018-10-13T20:15:00Z")

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> [@Natural\_CloneKiller](#):
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> Ganking a freighter should in my view cost more than it does now.

Ganking freighters is only profitable because players keep loading them with too much stuff.

Your argument is as silly as suggesting that highsec structures should automatically be protected from highsec wardecs for the first 6 months of their existence because so many are killed when someone wants to anchor a new market hub in Perimeter.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/64 "2018-10-13T20:23:51Z")

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I’m also sure she does not even know how much it costs to gank a freighter.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/65 "2018-10-14T01:46:24Z")

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To be fair though… Most gankers are subsidized their losses…

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/66 "2018-10-14T02:21:51Z")

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> [@Tora\_Bushido](#):
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> I predict changes this year. 👍

Do you predict merger of all hs mercs or hs mercs joining CODE. ? 😛

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/67 "2018-10-14T07:03:46Z")

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> [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](#):
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> And yes I am a returned Vet too

Nobody cares.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/68 "2018-10-14T13:10:28Z")

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I think there are too many egos to see everyone joining forces together. Stranger things have happened though, so we will see. I personally anticipate players adapting and moving on to other things. I don’t necessarilly believe that mercs will just shift to ganking.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/69 "2018-10-14T15:27:04Z")

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> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> To be fair though… Most gankers are subsidized their losses…

If you think the New Order SRP would even remotely be able to replace those ships then you have just shown that you also don’t know how much it costs to gank a freighter.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/70 "2018-10-14T15:50:40Z")

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Fair enough. I refer only to minerbumpings much-touted “shares”, the ticker on the side of the webpage with it’s attendant hat-tipping, and the other such donations. (Ships, resources, and whatever the loot fairy sees fit to drop.)

I don’t mind being educated.

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**Author:** ![Dilligafmofo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dilligafmofo/32/306665_2.png) [@Dilligafmofo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dilligafmofo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/71 "2018-10-16T09:40:31Z")

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> [@Sol\_epoch](#):
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> Hiraeth

Unfortunately Sol, the mechanics have changed so much that the hunt is no longer as fun as it was. Hiraeth indeed old butty

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**Author:** ![Mai\_Hantaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mai_hantaka/32/474180_2.png) [@Mai\_Hantaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mai_Hantaka)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/72 "2018-10-16T12:07:26Z")

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Go the zkillboard, look up a freighter kill, check the fitting of the Talos or bomber that was used to gank it, see how many of them were used in the attack, and presto, you too will know how much it costs to blow up a freighter.

Repeat the exercise for various freighter fits (bulkheads/cargo expanders) and solar systems (sec status) as desired.

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**Author:** ![Beachura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beachura/32/16655_2.png) [@Beachura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beachura)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/73 "2018-10-16T14:52:03Z")

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You’re going. to have to forgive me, but that has approximately zero impact as far as one can see on whether mercenary corporations shoot each other.

CCP could be owned by Apple and it wouldn’t have much of an impact on this.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/74 "2018-10-16T17:22:23Z")

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> [@Sol\_epoch](#):
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> Hiraeth

Nid yw hiraeth yr hyn a ddefnyddiwyd.

Yeah my Welsh is nasty, not used it much since my Nan died.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/75 "2018-10-16T21:03:23Z")

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Okay, maybe I’m explaining this badly…

I’m not saying that I don’t think it is expensive to blow up a freighter. I am saying that I think a lot of people contribute a lot of money and resources. I’m saying I think the funding is there, and that from the perspective of Rando-Miner27, it costs less to gank then it cost him to be ganked… Because no one is paying for him to have a replacement ship.

Whereas the ganker is being reshipped at very little cost to themselves specifically.

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**Author:** ![Sol\_epoch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sol_epoch/32/379171_2.png) [@Sol\_epoch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sol_epoch)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/76 "2018-10-16T21:03:38Z")

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Nostalgia that many have forgotten or others will never comprehend.

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/85 "2018-10-16T23:47:42Z")

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Yeah I miss guys like Croakroach and that long golden haired rabbit cannibal Kane.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/86 "2018-10-17T04:09:37Z")

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Croakroach still plays. He’s in Pirat. Kane was also play as of a few months ago, but I assume he’s on a hiatus.

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**Author:** ![Mai\_Hantaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mai_hantaka/32/474180_2.png) [@Mai\_Hantaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mai_Hantaka)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/87 "2018-10-17T08:47:14Z")

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If we had to balance the game around the sore feelings of Rando-Miner27 then highsec would be a carebear paradise without ganking, wardecs or any other risks. Who knows, still might happen.  
Other threads have explained in detail how Johnny\_Hauler11 can drastically reduce the risk of getting ganked in his freighter by taking a few basic precautions.

You could always place an alt in CODE, join their fleets for a while and get some better insight in the ISK flows.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-am-shocked-at-the-merc-profesion/78628/88 "2018-10-17T09:59:06Z")

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You mistake me, my friend. I was not advocating for the rights of any one faction or the other. Only expressing my viewpoint.

As far as placing an alt in code… Brother, I tried. I have a hard time getting folks in that Corporation to even talk, let alone help a newbro figure out what the hell to do. And that’s fair, it’s not up to their Alliance, or indeed any Alliance to teach someone the Labyrinthian ins and outs of the game.

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