# I believe Warp To Zero destroyed Eve (We should allow indterdictor SHIPS to operate in low-sec) **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** balance, redesign, game-mechanics\ **Created:** [October 31, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622 "2019-10-31T17:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/167 "2019-11-01T21:53:18Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > “WAAAHHH!! I WANT EASIER KILLS!! WWWAAAAHHHH!!” > > “I’M TOO SCARED TO FIND REAL FIGHTS AGAINST PEOPLE WHO WANT TO FIGHT!! WWAAAAHHHHH!!!” > > "WWWAAAHHHHH!!! 😭😩😫😢😭😭😭 Another person who doesn’t know how to read. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/168 "2019-11-01T21:53:43Z")
> [@Marcus\_Right](#): > > I’m not trying to make high-sec safer. I’m trying to make low-sec more interesting (by making it more dangerous). Lol no. Lowsec is boring because nobody goes there unless they’re FW bots or looking for random fights. Making gatecamps even more effective at keeping people out is not going to make it more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/169 "2019-11-01T21:54:06Z")
Those of you haven’t read, or think I’m lying, and just looking for easy kills. What do you think the odds of an industrial ship warping through low-sec for several jumps has of survival? ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/170 "2019-11-01T21:54:40Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Lol no. Lowsec is boring because nobody goes there unless they’re FW bots or looking for random fights. Making gatecamps even more effective at keeping people out is not going to make it more interesting. You explained one way it would make things more interesting in your own paragraph. You’d have people popping bots! Are you a botter? Do you want to keep your FW bots going? I bet you’re just afraid of your FW bots being stopped by priates! ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/171 "2019-11-01T21:55:28Z")
If you want to make lowsec more interesting significantly increase gate gun damage and then move all level 4 mission (and equivalent-profit activities) to lowsec. Now there’s a reason to be in lowsec and a chance of actually getting there without getting insta-killed on the first gate in. IOW, targets to hunt and you have to hunt for them instead of passively camping and killing everything that passes by. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/172 "2019-11-01T21:55:53Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > If you want to make lowsec more interesting significantly increase gate gun damage and then move all level 4 mission (and equivalent-profit activities) to lowsec. Now there’s a reason to be in lowsec and a chance of actually getting there without getting insta-killed on the first gate in. IOW, targets to hunt and you have to hunt for them instead of passively camping and killing everything that passes by. Why make gate guns do more damage? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/173 "2019-11-01T21:56:23Z")
> [@Marcus\_Right](#): > > You’d have people popping bots! People already pop FW bots and the FW bots don’t care because they’re flying unfitted T1 frigates. The bot just returns to its station and gets the next unfitted T1 frigate. There’s nothing interesting about it on either side. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/174 "2019-11-01T21:57:01Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > People already pop FW bots and the FW bots don’t care because they’re flying unfitted T1 frigates. The bot just returns to its station and gets the next unfitted T1 frigate. There’s nothing interesting about it on either side. It would be interesting for the gate campers. And at least there WOULD BE someone there, the gate campers! Faction warfare people might actually… ummm… have a war. Too. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/175 "2019-11-01T21:57:18Z")
> [@Marcus\_Right](#): > > I can’t go hunt pirates now, THEY DON’T EXIST, so of course I’m not roaming low-sec hunting pirates. Then I suggest you head to Otou/Miroitem/Rancer and tell Miss Missile “Sol said Hi” right before they kick your candy ass back to the clone vat. ■■■■■■■■. The last thing CCP is going to do … … is listening to some ass from nullsec about what to do with lowsec. The even laster (heh) thing CCP is going to do … … is pissing off literally everyone who plays in lowsec … … because some nullsec asshats want it to be easier for them. You’re full of ■■■■. The _only_ people who have a valid thing to say about lowsec … … are the very same people _who actually play in lowsec_. YOU aren’t one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/176 "2019-11-01T21:57:26Z")
> [@Marcus\_Right](#): > > Why make gate guns do more damage? So that the PvE players can reach the PvE activities without just getting killed the moment they jump into a system and therefore might actually try going to lowsec. If you want to kill them you can hunt them down in their missions where it’s an interesting fight. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/177 "2019-11-01T21:58:06Z")
Rance is still around aye? I never checked. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/178 "2019-11-01T21:58:08Z")
> [@Marcus\_Right](#): > > It would be interesting for the gate campers. Insta-killing unfitted T1 frigates is not “interesting” by any reasonable definition of the word. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/179 "2019-11-01T21:59:24Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > So that the PvE players can reach the PvE activities without just getting killed the moment they jump into a system and therefore might actually try going to lowsec. Hell, now YOU start with ■■■■■■■■! You know damn well how much of a stinking pile of ■■■■■■■■ this is! No one who is scared of losing ■■■■ is going to lowsec and anything else but perfect safety isn’t going to get them to do anything in lowsec. What the ■■■■ is wrong with you people? ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/180 "2019-11-01T21:59:39Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > The last thing CCP is going to do … > … is listening to some ass from nullsec about what to do with lowsec. Why don’t you let CCP decide that? > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > The even laster (heh) thing CCP is going to do … > … is pissing off literally everyone who plays in lowsec … > … because some nullsec asshats want it to be easier for them. No, I want to make it harder for everyone to go through low-sec. Not make it easier for me. I live in nullsec right now, I have it easy… TO FRICKEN EASY! > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > You’re full of ■■■■. > > The _only_ people who have a valid thing to say about lowsec … > … are the very same people _who actually play in lowsec_ . A baby can play in low-sec right now. I play in null-sec because its slightly more difficult and slightly more interesting than high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/181 "2019-11-01T22:00:13Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > No one who is scared of losing ■■■■ is going to lowsec and anything else but perfect safety isn’t going to get them to do anything in lowsec. Fine, then they can ragequit and go back to WoW because it is no longer possible to make endgame-level ISK in highsec. The strong survive, the weak go back to WoW, just as god intended. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/182 "2019-11-01T22:00:19Z")
You guys didn’t answer me, what are the odds of an industrial ship going into low-sec right now, jumping, say 5 jumps, and surviving? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/183 "2019-11-01T22:00:52Z")
Much lower than the odds of doing the same in highsec unless the pilot is an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/184 "2019-11-01T22:00:54Z")
> [@Marcus\_Right](#): > > Rance is still around aye? I never checked. “There are no pirates in lowsec anymore” coming from the guy who doesn’t even make sure to check if there are any pirates in lowsec. You. Full of ■■■■. Bye. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Right](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_right/32/163815_2.png) [@Marcus\_Right](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Right)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/185 "2019-11-01T22:01:56Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Much lower than the odds of doing the same in highsec unless the pilot is an idiot. THIS IS REALLY BORING… Autopilot the whole way. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/f/2/cf2b8782b9465ce88cead706356cbd1dcb44f788.jpeg "EVE Marcus Right 2019 10 31 20 31 54") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiN1oJn19SM) I can do that all day long, every day, any time of day. Low-Sec is F\*\*\*ING BORING! And I know, because I do it with cargo on different characters. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622/186 "2019-11-01T22:05:07Z")
That’s nice, now do that in highsec without being an idiot. Same result, the only difference is that in lowsec it’s actually possible that you might encounter someone and lose the ship. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-believe-warp-to-zero-destroyed-eve-we-should-allow-indterdictor-ships-to-operate-in-low-sec/198622.md?page=10)