# I came back to Eve SOLELY because of the Doctor Who crossover! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341 "2022-01-04T20:54:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Marmaduke\_Hatplate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marmaduke_hatplate/32/303403_2.png) [@Marmaduke\_Hatplate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marmaduke_Hatplate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/1 "2022-01-04T20:54:12Z")
As soon as I saw that New Eden was getting invaded by DALEKS, and that absolutely glorious picture of the starscape with the Doctor and companion and eve ships zipping around, I knew I simply HAD to come back to the game after a break of quite a few years. The allure is simply irresistable. As a massive DW fan, and a self-ackowledged carebear player, I am loving this so far. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AzothPrime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azothprime/32/387961_2.png) [@AzothPrime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AzothPrime)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/2 "2022-01-04T20:56:00Z")
Calm Down Carebear! ---
**Author:** ![Marmaduke\_Hatplate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marmaduke_hatplate/32/303403_2.png) [@Marmaduke\_Hatplate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marmaduke_Hatplate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/3 "2022-01-04T20:57:58Z")
You say that, but this event is already delivering so much of what was missing for me when I last played. And that’s why we play, right? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/4 "2022-01-04T21:00:54Z")
So you play EVE for desperate, drain-circling cringe? ---
**Author:** ![Lambda\_Thyl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lambda_thyl/32/405817_2.png) [@Lambda\_Thyl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lambda_Thyl)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/5 "2022-01-04T21:02:36Z")
Looking for a corp? We also love Dr. House. ---
**Author:** ![Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ange_des_larmes/32/304752_2.png) [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ange_des_Larmes)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/6 "2022-01-04T21:04:35Z")
It’s interesting to hear you say you’re interested in coming back because of a franchise with a long storyline that you’re invested in… Because Eve _has_ one of those, and this event literally ruins all of it. The origins of human in the New Eden Cluster, the reasons for the Empires being founded, the Amarr Ian religion, that there are no aliens only different types of humans, that the universe Eve is in has a different type of physics that means ships act more like submarines than spaceships, the whole timeline of events… None of it fits with Dr Who lore without a serious rewrite or some major handwaving. Now, if CCP invested in their own lore and story more - it’s been massively under-funded for years despite amazing work coming from the people who have built some of the best events in the game during that period doing so by focusing on the lore - they might get more people come back to the game or sign up to it fresh. You know, like Dr Who did when it was rebooted… ---
**Author:** ![Marmaduke\_Hatplate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marmaduke_hatplate/32/303403_2.png) [@Marmaduke\_Hatplate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marmaduke_Hatplate)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/7 "2022-01-04T21:07:38Z")
Well I used to play it to have fun with my friend and chat about life and chill while we mined asteroids in hisec, but tosspots like the New Order suicide ganked us so many times we moved to a game with less of a ‘git gud, scrub’ attitude. And so now I’m here for the delicious salty tears of bittervets posting about how galling it is for the very same devs who coined ‘HTFU’ to invite DALEKS and arguably the most carebeary carebear of all Time into their ‘cold, harsh, galaxy’ Daleks in Eve Online. I never thought I would see this day, and it is glorious. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/8 "2022-01-04T21:08:18Z")
This event will be remembered more than any before! BTW Daleks will be hard to kill. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/9 "2022-01-04T21:14:02Z")
If you love DW so much, how do you reconcile with yourself that the Daleks being an overpowered force that you can now easily kill with a frigate? WHOVIANS! ![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/5/96524d53cb22e8d34dff925203908c55729b363e.png) ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/10 "2022-01-04T21:30:34Z")
Eve lore is pretty much dead. Not enough people care about it anymore, high sec is such a bad place to do anything or make money someone would have to go out of their way to pursue it, FW was pretty much killed off by citadels, lack of attention and has been hyper-optimized that all it is really about is the formulaic grind. Wish the attention was shifted somewhat to lore, I think it is important. Player driven content only works when there are the right people creating it. Fail to see how doctor who kills the lore at all. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/11 "2022-01-04T21:40:39Z")
I’m only re-subscribing if i get a TARDIS shuttle, if not i’m uninterested, even as a DW fan ---
**Author:** ![Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ange_des_larmes/32/304752_2.png) [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ange_des_Larmes)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/12 "2022-01-04T22:02:51Z")
> [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](#): > > Fail to see how doctor who kills the lore at all. > [@Doctor Who event](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/doctor-who-event/344252/39): > > Right, the thing is, the EVE setting, was until now, a setting in which there were no intelligent aliens. It was very much a grimdark setting where “the only space monsters are other humans”. > Dr Who and Daleks are unequivocally aliens. They’re not humans. They introduce into the EVE setting, the knowledge that humans are not the only intelligent life in the universe. This is a big thing. > It also means, that all the existing empires knowledge of humanitys origins is now incontrovertibly wrong. The foundations of the amarr religion, the basis of gallente philosophy, the Minmatar’s spirits and mythology - all now objectively wrong, because of the insertion of this Dr who stuff. > It’s a massive hammer blow to the integrity of the EVE setting, and changes everything. Hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/13 "2022-01-04T22:26:20Z")
No. I suppose trivlavians or jovians already broke it by that argument - but that argument is as bad as the ones that suggest the new star wars films destroyed the good ones. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/14 "2022-01-04T22:41:41Z")
> [@Marmaduke\_Hatplate](#): > > As soon as I saw that New Eden was getting invaded by DALEKS, and that absolutely glorious picture of the starscape with the Doctor and companion and eve ships zipping around, I knew I simply HAD to come back to the game after a break of quite a few years. > > The allure is simply irresistable. > > As a massive DW fan, and a self-ackowledged carebear player, I am loving this so far. Heh. I approve. I see what you did there. 10/10. > [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](#): > > Because Eve _has_ one of those, and this event literally ruins all of it. The origins of human in the New Eden Cluster, the reasons for the Empires being founded, the Amarr Ian religion, that there are no aliens only different types of humans, that the universe Eve is in has a different type of physics that means ships act more like submarines than spaceships, the whole timeline of events… None of it fits with Dr Who lore without a serious rewrite or some major handwaving. Bro. Lets not front like any of that matters in your day to day New Eden life. Guess the Joker was right eh? People just lose their minds 😃 > [@Marmaduke\_Hatplate](#): > > And so now I’m here for the delicious salty tears of bittervets posting about how galling it is for the very same devs who coined ‘HTFU’ to invite DALEKS and arguably the most carebeary carebear of all Time into their ‘cold, harsh, galaxy’ > > Daleks in Eve Online. I never thought I would see this day, and it is glorious. Yes sir, the tears are _delicious_. > [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > If you love DW so much, how do you reconcile with yourself that the Daleks being an overpowered force that you can now easily kill with a frigate? > > WHOVIANS! I mean they couldn’t go up stairs for quite a while so > [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](#): > > Hope this helps. The trigs and jovians would like a word 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Cultist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_cultist/32/388342_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Cultist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Cultist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/15 "2022-01-05T01:56:56Z")
> [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](#): > > trivlavians or jovians already broke it by that argument > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > The trigs and jovians would like a word No, because the trigs and jovians are still human, albeit altered. Until now, every enemy in EVE had been humans, or products of humans. The Jovians and Triglavians are humans. The rogue drones are products of humans. So are the Drifters. The Jovians screwed themselves up by genetic engineering gone mad. Triglavians are weirdoes who speak in riddles. The drones are a rogue machine originally created to do the hard work by lazy gallente. The Drifters are some weird thing created by the Jovians in the distant past. They’re all either humans or products of human greed/stupidity/naivety/whatever. Daleks and Time Lords are aliens. They undermine one of the basic premises of EVE’s setting. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/16 "2022-01-05T02:08:05Z")
So it’s seeing the weeds from your yard in your neighbors otherwise well gardened yard that is fun? Dr Who in Eve is like a plastic pink flamingo in a Japanese garden. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/17 "2022-01-05T02:09:36Z")
The Daleks have horrible tracking. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/18 "2022-01-05T02:12:44Z")
Trigs and Jovians are of human origin. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/19 "2022-01-05T02:15:22Z")
> [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > No, because the trigs and jovians are still human, albeit altered. Huh. So how altered do you have to be to not be human? > [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > The Jovians screwed themselves up by genetic engineering gone mad. So not human, got it. > [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > The drones are a rogue machine originally created to do the hard work by lazy gallente. Not human, and basically its own race, so alien. Got it. > [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > The Drifters are some weird thing created by the Jovians in the distant past. So not human, and potentially now alien. Got it. ROFL. Are you a gymnast? Cause the amount of bending and semantics you trynna do, you should have def been in the olympics. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Cultist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_cultist/32/388342_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Cultist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Cultist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341/20 "2022-01-05T02:28:30Z")
You’re missing the point where they were of human origin. The Rogue drones were a product of humans, gone feral. Not alien origin. The Jovians were also human, whether they still were by the end, or whether they counted as a different species, doesn’t alter that they were human. Not alien origin. Drifters, again, a creation of humans, from long ago, also gone feral. Not alien origin. are you a 1960’s go-go dancer ? Cos you’re doing a lot of twisting, lol [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-came-back-to-eve-solely-because-of-the-doctor-who-crossover/344341.md?page=2)