# I don't understand why CCP always forces player to do sth **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, high-sec\ **Created:** [June 5, 2020, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835 "2020-06-05T08:56:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Syn\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syn_shi/32/242535_2.png) [@Syn\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syn_Shi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/63 "2020-06-07T16:00:25Z")
No they don’t. Just move and avoid the new low-sec systems like most of the pvp players are doing once it flips. ---
**Author:** ![Liberty\_Tsun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/liberty_tsun/32/248434_2.png) [@Liberty\_Tsun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Liberty_Tsun)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/64 "2020-06-07T16:17:24Z")
Yep. CCP is trying to turn the game into Fortnite-in-space. Have fun, children! ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/65 "2020-06-07T16:25:05Z")
thats why i don’t trust people younger than the game i play ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/66 "2020-06-07T16:41:54Z")
> [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > Yep. CCP is trying to turn the game into Fortnite-in-space. Nope. CCP is trying to restore the original concept of EVE being a game of warfare and competitive capitalism, by removing the risk-averse farmer trash that only cares about farming the same menial task 23 hours a day. Sorry if you can’t cope with a game that requires more than mindlessly pressing F1 on a rock and watching your wallet numbers go up, but having constant PvP conflict does not make a game Fortnite in space. ---
**Author:** ![Syn\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syn_shi/32/242535_2.png) [@Syn\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syn_Shi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/67 "2020-06-07T23:38:00Z")
You press F1 in large battles and then go get a drink, You assist your drones to a drone bunny, You accept fleet warp when moving around, You mine in peace in the blue donut, You run anomalies with no risk in the blue donut, CCP removed resources from Null due to all the active players there…lol I think you need to look in the mirror, many in null are doing the same menial tasks, in safety, and make more isk. Many null players keep their assets where…tucked away in safety of high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/68 "2020-06-08T00:05:08Z")
Who is he talking to? ---
**Author:** ![Liberty\_Tsun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/liberty_tsun/32/248434_2.png) [@Liberty\_Tsun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Liberty_Tsun)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/70 "2020-06-08T03:24:50Z")
Mining was around when Eve first came out, amongst other things that CCP has removed over the years. CCP is trying to cash in on the impulse-driven Fortnite crowd. Yo dawg, you want some skins? Or take a punt at the casino? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/71 "2020-06-08T03:42:19Z")
> [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > Mining was around when Eve first came out, amongst other things that CCP has removed over the years. Wait, mining has been removed? That’s going to be news for a lot of players… PS: there is a difference between “mining” and “sitting AFK in a belt 23/7 and whining on the forums every time anything disrupts your farming”. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/72 "2020-06-08T03:44:15Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Wait, mining has been removed? That’s going to be news for a lot of players… It came from a very credible source so… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/73 "2020-06-08T03:50:26Z")
Highsec is big. These invasions are single systems and we’ve had a grand total of two systems have their sec status reduced. Have you tried moving? ---
**Author:** ![Liberty\_Tsun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/liberty_tsun/32/248434_2.png) [@Liberty\_Tsun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Liberty_Tsun)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/74 "2020-06-08T04:04:09Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > > [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > > > Mining was around when Eve first came out, amongst other things that CCP has removed over the years. > > Wait, mining has been removed? That’s going to be news for a lot of players… > > PS: there is a difference between “mining” and “sitting AFK in a belt 23/7 and whining on the forums every time anything disrupts your farming”. Eve peaked in 2012. Maybe you like $hitting on the older style of gameplay, but every change since then has failed. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/75 "2020-06-08T04:11:47Z")
> [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > but every change since then has failed WD system was an improvement Current station abandonment mechanic is an improvement Proven wrong in 5 seconds…lol… ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/76 "2020-06-08T04:16:17Z")
> [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > Eve peaked in 2012. Maybe you like $hitting on the older style of gameplay, but every change since then has failed. Hint for the clueless: the most recent changes have been in favor of risk-averse farmer trash. The “older style of gameplay” involved significantly more PvP threats and a player base that was much more unified in telling farmer trash to STFU and go back to WoW if they can’t handle EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/77 "2020-06-08T04:23:47Z")
> [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > Maybe you like $hitting on the older style of gameplay The older style of gameplay isn’t what you think it was, Eve used to be a game where doing PvE in the face of PvP didn’t revolve around constantly whining about it, instead it revolved around managing your risk and making sure that the PvP happened to others. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/78 "2020-06-08T07:21:12Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > > [@Liberty\_Tsun](#): > > > > but every change since then has failed > > WD system was an improvement > Current station abandonment mechanic is an improvement > > Proven wrong in 5 seconds…lol… That’s your opinion and not everybody agrees with it. Disproved in 2 seconds…lol… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/79 "2020-06-08T07:57:30Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Disproved in 2 seconds…lol… Except I didn’t make an absolute claim now did I sport…lol… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/80 "2020-06-08T08:03:54Z")
Actually sport, you did make an absolute claim in your failed attempt to demean that player. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Proven wrong in 5 seconds…lol… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/81 "2020-06-08T08:04:27Z")
Ok, you just don’t know what absolute means then… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/82 "2020-06-08T08:14:35Z")
Yeah, flip flop some more. You made an absolute statement that you proved another player wrong in 5 secs based strictly on your opinion that WarDec and Station Abandonment changes were an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835/83 "2020-06-08T08:15:11Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > You made an absolute statement Which was? Directly quote is so you don’t weasel out of it later… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-dont-understand-why-ccp-always-forces-player-to-do-sth/246835.md?page=5)