# I feel bad for the people who have to train for 90 days

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 16, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112 "2020-10-16T22:51:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lonesol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lonesol/32/233524_2.png) [@Lonesol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lonesol)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/81 "2020-10-17T03:07:37Z")

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You can do better than that can’t you? My post got you to say I like where its going haha, then you say that. Come on do better.

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**Author:** ![Lonesol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lonesol/32/233524_2.png) [@Lonesol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lonesol)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/82 "2020-10-17T03:09:20Z")

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I never said I understand eve lol. I just gave my opinion, and the responses were much fun. Infact this post is more fun than the boring click little names and hit the attack button haha.

I’m sure they did appreciate it, as well as who ever made the ship and things that I bought with it.

This post was way better than all that boring drivel and depressing nonsense about fonts, trig ivansions, and gates stopping .

I had a good time anyways haha.

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**Author:** ![Lonesol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lonesol/32/233524_2.png) [@Lonesol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lonesol)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/83 "2020-10-17T03:13:20Z")

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Maybe I made some one so upset they will actively try to hunt me in the game that would be fun too haha.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/84 "2020-10-17T03:51:32Z")

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> [@Lonesol](#):
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> Haha killing people that don’t want to pvp to see if you can piss them off, means you are a psychopath.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/b/3b2a2faf3d9408b53d5025e3b0f555b2de358cb9.gif)  
“Sociopath” seems to be the favoured term. Bonus points for more creative variations of “Gankbear Sociopath Jackwagon Elderberry-smellin’ idiot!” etc etc  
It’s actually kind of interesting for the social experiment / psychology aspects.

Smug people who think they know it all are great as they tend to “lose it” and reveal their true selves fairly easily.

You, my friend, are an ALOD waiting to happen, and I encourage you to continue in EvE exactly as you have been. You show those pathetic losers how you are smarter!

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**Author:** ![Random\_Rick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/random_rick/32/258426_2.png) [@Random\_Rick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Random_Rick)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/85 "2020-10-17T05:25:46Z")

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> [@Lonesol](#):
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> The 90 days was not learning about the game it was about the training times to be able to actually do stuff. **You could spent weeks reading about the game, but if you can’t do any of it, you are never gonna learn.**

I spend weeks reading about this game, asking veterans on forums and joining educational corps like EVE uni. I learnt **a lot.**

edit: but I admit I am still noob and need to learn more.

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**Author:** ![Random\_Rick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/random_rick/32/258426_2.png) [@Random\_Rick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Random_Rick)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/86 "2020-10-17T05:29:05Z")

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> [@Lonesol](#):
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> Right there proves how psychopathic some of you are lol, you went to a website to find if I lost a ship.

bruh zkillboard is such a popular website, everyone I know uses it.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/87 "2020-10-17T06:39:23Z")

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> [@Lonesol](#):
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> Yeah cause they can’t actually do anything haha. Thr company must love people like you, you string the new people on, telling them stories of what maybe they can do in years, if they suck up to u enough lol. But it doesn’t take jack anything to figure out this game stop saying that.

If you cannot find a way to earn some decent ISK in a game like this you are doing it wrong.

Further, your overall complaint is that many features in the game take awhile to learn. Yeah there is a reason for that. If it were the case that every new character could use all sorts of stuff on day one the biggest beneficiaries would be players like me with years of experience. We’d be much better able to exploit that change than new players.

Look at your own narrative. You didn’t know all that much. You read some stuff on line, possibly out of data, and gave it a try. And it didn’t work. Veteran players already know that stuff. So they can create new alts and leverage those alts for maximum benefit while you are bumbling around with your main trying to figure out various elements of the game.

In fact, your narrative is actually a cautionary tale for wallet warriors. Sure you can open your wallet, buy skills and go try out X or Y only to find out they didn’t work like you thought. You have technically wasted your investment. And read your own post you’ve done this multiple times and the only thing you have apparently learned is the wrong lesson that the game is unfair.

Here is a good post on part of what you are doing wrong. Your response is both arrogant and stupid. The entire point of a video game is to have fun, yet it seems you aren’t having that much fun despite buying lots of skill injectors.

> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#):
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> You already missed the point and chances are your whole life is full of the same mistake.  
> Rather than do it in Eve like you do everywhere else, maybe you should take a different track and just enjoy yourself WHILE training?  
> How about that novel idea? Try not to have a stroke.

This is also a good comment you should consider.

> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> Anything that is easy, dumb and low risk will not pay well because everyone is doing it.
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> To make more isk you have to either do things on a bigger scale, or do it smarter or take more risks.

Have you also considered that maybe you can use your RL income to have both some skills and also ISK and go join a group that can help you learn various fine points of the game. Maybe make some friends or the like?

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/88 "2020-10-17T06:43:35Z")

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> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#):
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> You, my friend, are an ALOD waiting to happen, and I encourage you to continue in EvE exactly as you have been. You show those pathetic losers how you are smarter!

I was going to make the same comment. I was thinking of that dolt who bought a dread in LS then lost on a HS gate because he didn’t realize he couldn’t jump it into HS. This guys is going to do something just as dumb one day.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/89 "2020-10-17T06:45:32Z")

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> [@Lonesol](#):
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> As a solo player u can do everything minus being in those lame corporation battles, which are beyond stupid and laggy. Only stupid people want to be ordered around like a dog.

Never mind…you’re just a moron.

Just to show why you are an idiot…

Yes, I am part of a very large group in the game. Yes, I have been in some pretty laggy battles. And despite the lag the last one was actually kind of fun. I got into the fleet of a Fleet Commander (FC) who is pretty cool and whom I have never heard rage even if we screw up. So while it was laggy AF, we still had a good time making jokes about the lag and talking about all sorts of things as we waited 3-4 minute for the fleet warp to kick in. But it also has upsides too. Like this…

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/8/38f0e69b910b25242ede423e0d06363cbb9dbe19.jpeg "GOONSWARM - The Nyx") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cAkcXK3SE)

Do that as a solo player dope.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/90 "2020-10-17T06:57:41Z")

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There’s some funny irony behind someone, who can’t spell “you”, saying others can’t read.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/91 "2020-10-17T06:59:50Z")

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Dude…thanks for the laugh.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/92 "2020-10-17T07:00:11Z")

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ur well come, maid! 🤪

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**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/93 "2020-10-17T07:00:21Z")

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Not sure if OP is insane or trolling. Either way, I truly hope English isn’t his first language. He’s also absolutely wrong, you can engage in pretty much every activity in eve within a week or two.

Hauling  
Playing the market  
Sites/anoms/sigs  
Missions  
Faction war  
Ganking  
Indy  
Mining  
Ratting  
Ninja salvaging

That’s all stuff you can do solo within days of starting out.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/94 "2020-10-17T07:04:08Z")

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> [@Obed\_Marshh](#):
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> Not sure if OP is insane or trolling.

No, he’s just full of himself. Hubris oozes out of his posts.  
He thinks he’s the king and has no idea of the world of pain he’s inviting with this thread.

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**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/95 "2020-10-17T07:07:15Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> No, he’s just full of himself. Hubris oozes out of his posts.  
> He thinks he’s the king and has no idea of the world of pain he’s inviting with this thread.

Oozing hubris is the worst kind. I just hope I get a good seat when he runs afoul of the “everything in eve is pvp and ■■■■ you if you don’t want to join on it” crowd in game(or even worse, here in the forum).

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/96 "2020-10-17T07:32:30Z")

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Got halfway down the thread, couldn’t take any more of this obvious troll - have we figured out who’s alt it is yet ?

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/97 "2020-10-17T08:20:56Z")

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OP is fairly accurate in his analysis of Eve as a game/product - the rest is rather immature boasting.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/98 "2020-10-17T09:28:09Z")

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He’s clearly 12

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/100 "2020-10-17T10:43:53Z")

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I feel bad for people who can’t even manage to skill one skill for 90 days.

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**Author:** ![Aramatheia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aramatheia/32/383412_2.png) [@Aramatheia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aramatheia)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-feel-bad-for-the-people-who-have-to-train-for-90-days/274112/101 "2020-10-17T11:32:45Z")

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the way it used to be is that getting to lvl 4 in a skill was more than adequate with level 5 not an absolute must have, but a nice little power boost over 4’s. Except for the obvious advanced ships which required +5 skills to access i mean.

That way the uber vets had thier mini edge but a newer player could still ship up and cause trouble in most situations.

Those skill injector things has kind of broken that balance i feel, now a 2 day old character could just buy buy buy to “uber” levels powered by nothing more than USD’s. But then i dont do any content where it really impacts me anyway and when i do encounter another player i have a 90% win rate anyway (competitive pve! woo)

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