# I gave EVE a try --cannot recommend to new players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 12, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996 "2020-08-12T08:35:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/243 "2020-08-16T09:22:23Z")
> [@Ashreya\_Faraday](#): > > As stated in my earlier post, I _detest_ PVP and will do all I can to avoid it wherever possible. Please, tell us how you do that. ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/244 "2020-08-16T09:23:20Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > > [@Ashreya\_Faraday](#): > > > > I didn’t say they weren’t so I’m not sure what your point is. > > Most people don’t read and reply to posts here. They scan for trigger words and reflexively bang out tired clichés. What triggered you this time? ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/245 "2020-08-16T10:43:06Z")
how about the Campaign for the Liberation of Itinerant Tritanium-bearing Or Raw Isogen Sources? I don’t think the acronym would work though. ---
**Author:** ![Ashreya\_Faraday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashreya_faraday/32/220029_2.png) [@Ashreya\_Faraday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashreya_Faraday)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/246 "2020-08-16T10:58:48Z")
For the last time I was referring to PvP combat. That is what I will avoid as much as is possible. This is my last comment on this - I don’t know why so many people need this spelled out. ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Darine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rich_darine/32/438327_2.png) [@Rich\_Darine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rich_Darine)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/247 "2020-08-16T11:21:15Z")
I wouldn’t recommend Eve Online to people who are about to start College or University, or have a full-time job or career… 😁 This game is actually great for new players. In fact I wish I could go through the rookie phase again. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/248 "2020-08-16T11:53:30Z")
> [@Oscar\_Class](#): > > so what you will see in future? As someone who has been playing as an industrialist for 6 years, I see myself, and the game as a whole, doing just fine. The stuff that I make is selling profitably because I price it properly to begin with. I don’t need to chase the market down because I understand the cyclical nature of commodity markets. I expect my business will improve as people like you, who are unwilling or unable to adapt to change, drop out. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/249 "2020-08-16T12:04:50Z")
I see what you did there, Jay and Silent Bob would be proud. Although I can’t quite wrap my tongue around the spelling. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/250 "2020-08-16T15:01:25Z")
> [@Vals\_Loeder](#): > > > [@Ashreya\_Faraday](#): > > > > As stated in my earlier post, I _detest_ PVP and will do all I can to avoid it wherever possible. > > Please, tell us how you do that. Easy - park your character in a hi-sec (10) npc station, and never log-on again. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/251 "2020-08-16T17:52:02Z")
lol it was a Red Dwarf reference but OK 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/252 "2020-08-16T18:02:06Z")
As a fan of Red Dwarf I’m ashamed to have not picked it up, I instantly thought of Jay and Silent Bob’s “I am the CLIT commander” ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/253 "2020-08-16T20:00:33Z")
> [@Ashreya\_Faraday](#): > > For the last time I was referring to PvP combat. That is what I will avoid as much as is possible. > > This is my last comment on this - I don’t know why so many people need this spelled out. Because you obviously have a very limited view of what pvp means. Perhaps you should try to be more clear what you mean to say before posting your crap. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/254 "2020-08-16T20:05:08Z")
interesting take you have on T1 items… My corp made 12 billion ISK profit building and dumping them last week after a 24 hr build time… hmmm, me thinks you do not know how to do industry. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/255 "2020-08-16T20:09:18Z")
> [@Ashreya\_Faraday](#): > > - I don’t know why so many people need this spelled out. @Ashreya_Faraday - It’s because that particular subject is deeply rooted in the concepts of what EvE is and has been…“hotly debated” since the beginning of EvE. You inadvertently touched one of the “third rail” subjects in EvE. Don’t take it too personally…jerk. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/256 "2020-08-16T20:58:31Z")
@Ashreya_Faraday > [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > > [@Ashreya\_Faraday](#): > > > > - I don’t know why so many people need this spelled out. > > @Ashreya_Faraday - It’s because that particular subject is deeply rooted in the concepts of what EvE is and has been…“hotly debated” since the beginning of EvE. You inadvertently touched one of the “third rail” subjects in EvE. Don’t take it too personally…jerk. 😉 @Xuxe_Xu is correct, its a deeply rooted concept to make this distinction. For me it comes down to being a litmus test, as in is this player a Carebear or not? or just delusional? for the moment i think your going to do fine in EvE ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/257 "2020-08-16T20:59:30Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > interesting take you have on T1 items… > > My corp made 12 billion ISK profit building and dumping them last week after a 24 hr build time… > > hmmm, me thinks you do not know how to do industry. So how much money’s worth of T1 items did you sell in order to make 12 billion in profit? Really curious. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/258 "2020-08-16T22:25:36Z")
Minerals that you mine yourself are free. You can make 12 billion selling anything. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/259 "2020-08-16T22:55:01Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Minerals that you mine yourself are free. They sure are. While I’m down at the pub IRL, my 50 alpha character bot farm is hoovering up everything in my little corner of sov null. God bless F2P. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/260 "2020-08-16T23:00:04Z")
And the best part is that you can then sell the ISK gotten from the free minerals for real cash. It’s almost like you’re being _paid_ to go to the pub! Truly, we live in a glorious age. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/261 "2020-08-16T23:46:04Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > “only half of all users ever open any particular game after purchasing it” I am so guilty of that… which is why I am reluctant to log into Steam, they keep offering specials. One other company released statistics a few years back (Jan 2014) regarding one of their games, a rather well known MMO, giving current subs being around 7.6% of all accounts ever made. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/262 "2020-08-17T07:20:04Z")
I think it was a Star Wars game that the server shut down after going from several tens of thousands of subscribers to around a dozen in the space of a week because of some publisher douchbaggery that completely enraged the playerbase to the point where they simply quit. On the other hand, Battlestar Galactica Online was steady at several thousand paying subscribers when the server shut down with two weeks notice. The rage in the game chat channels was so bad the mods had no choice but to pre-empt the PEGI R-rating by shutting those down ahead of time. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996.md?page=14)