# I gave EVE a try --cannot recommend to new players **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 12, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996 "2020-08-12T08:35:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/394 "2020-11-07T19:47:34Z")
Solecist, Rules like "if you don’t want risk, stay in High Sec, and do your thing… oops, not enough folks are choosing to go into Low Sec… quick, let’s impose a change to -force- them to do so? ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/395 "2020-11-07T19:48:09Z")
You’re not actually addressing my post. ☹ Why would you do that? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/396 "2020-11-07T19:49:54Z")
I addressed it as it was written at the time I was responding… and how it ‘not the same thing’… when they advertise a game as “You can do A-Z so come join the fun” and when you join they go “Oh, but if you don’t want to do B, K, and W, then we will change the game so those are the only -real- options” ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/397 "2020-11-07T19:50:37Z")
Well then just edit it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/398 "2020-11-07T19:54:00Z")
> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#): > > Oh, but if you don’t want to do B, K, and W, then I don’t understand. ☹ Can you give me in-game examples? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/399 "2020-11-07T19:55:24Z")
T2 manufacturing from scratch in highsec, probably. Or flying a rorqual in highsec. Or ultra-bling PVE without risking getting ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/400 "2020-11-07T19:58:44Z")
Ok so say you are a player who likes to build things, or play the market, or do PVE Missions, and don’t want to do the PVP part, unless you -choose- to have that kind of fun… and then they go. “Gee, not enough people are doing the PVP combat, so let’s change the rules on resource distribution, so now they -have- to go into the dangerous areas, if they want to continue having -their- kind of fun…” So you’ve just given a big Carrot to the PVP folks, and a big Stick to the other folks… so what Stick did the PVP folks get, and what Carrot did the other folks get? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/401 "2020-11-07T20:00:55Z")
Xeux, or how about something like "2 days new into the game, doing the tutorial missions, and 2 of the 5 agents sent you into the Trig hot zone… You manage to avoid most of the hell, and have like 5EHP left, limping to dock… when someone decides “hey, it will be real fun to attack the newbie, and pod kill them”? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/402 "2020-11-07T20:06:26Z")
I must have missed the part where a Corvette is ‘ultrabling’ ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/403 "2020-11-07T20:07:19Z")
> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#): > > “hey, it will be real fun to attack the newbie, and pod kill them”? And you really believe this happens in a significant capacity and without CCP knowing, or caring? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/404 "2020-11-07T20:09:02Z")
Solstice, would you like me to see if the kill report for it is still up? Not exactly a thing that screams out to a new player just trying to learn the game controls and such “Hey, this will be a game you’ll love to play for years” ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/405 "2020-11-07T20:20:38Z")
CCP recently introduced Triglavians. Trigs are absolutely horrible for new players. It is pointless to argue that PvP highsec ganking is a problem with giant red clouds of Triglavian war fleets flying around killing everybody that doesn’t know what they are doing. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/406 "2020-11-07T20:21:43Z")
But someone choosing to pod kill a newbie doesn’t exactly -improve- the situation, hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/407 "2020-11-07T20:26:54Z")
Maybe you don’t understand Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/408 "2020-11-07T20:27:26Z")
> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#): > > would you like me to see if the kill report for it is still up? I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but I’m also not saying I know about the circumstances of _why_ it happened, because I wasn’t there. There’s more than one reason why this might happen, highsec or otherwise. Do you truly believe this happens in a significant capacity and without CCP knowing, or caring? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/409 "2020-11-07T20:30:19Z")
> [@Avatar\_Sky-on](#): > > But someone choosing to pod kill a newbie doesn’t exactly -improve- the situation, hmm? Yes, it can, actually. I’ve tried this several times myself, because it’s a quick money-maker. I make a new character and head to lowsec, where I eventually get blown up by a disco. _(smartbombing battleships)_ Then I contact the aggressor, act all surprised _and enthusiastically_ and they usually give me stuff or ISK, because of my spirit and attitude. Such situations are great! You’re making the mistake that you’re _blindly assuming_ that new players have any issue with getting blown up … … in a game where _they know_ that they can get blown up. You don’t see that you’re making this mistake? ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/410 "2020-11-07T20:32:05Z")
All I know, is on my 2nd or 3d day playing, I was doing the Career Agent missions to try and learn the game… Business Agent Mission #2 for Caldari sent me right into the middle of a Trig battlezone ((which IMO should not be a thing that should be happening in a new player tutorial area)) Warped in, and was attacked right away by the Trigs, which I understand as it was an NPC thing going on in the game I had just joined… the ‘dick move’ thing was the person who thought it was a ‘good idea’ to pod kill a newbie, for no other reason than to killboard whore. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/411 "2020-11-07T20:32:50Z")
It’s quite the experience you won’t ever get anywhere else. Why do you have an issue with this? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/412 "2020-11-07T20:33:17Z")
if it happened in a newb area, then yea thats griefing… but anywhere else, as Solstice mentioned, prime for popping a newbie pod. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar\_Sky-on](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avatar_sky-on/32/244417_2.png) [@Avatar\_Sky-on](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avatar_Sky-on)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996/413 "2020-11-07T20:35:10Z")
it was griefing plain and simple, but what made me comment was hearing all the folks complaining about the lack of new players, and going “gee, I wonder -why-” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-gave-eve-a-try-cannot-recommend-to-new-players/259996.md?page=21)