# I grinded ISK with an alpha and bought omega **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 23, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839 "2023-10-23T14:02:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/21 "2023-10-24T13:00:17Z")
Dictionaries are not an authority ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/22 "2023-10-24T13:12:41Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > Dictionaries are not an authority. Quote of the year. Or at least a very hot contender! 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/23 "2023-10-24T13:14:07Z")
Do you think dictionaries added “meme” before it was used by anyone? Just curious ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/24 "2023-10-24T13:23:24Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > Why was i able to grind and play like mad when i was alpha, but then when i got omega i lost interest? Anyone else had the same experience? If you do the same thing on your second account it becomes meaningless and you’ll lose interest. One of the core idea of PLEX is to support your 2n-, 3rd- … accounts with it via subscription or SP, while paying just for your main account. While your main account is suited for brawling combat for PVP or PVE, your second account ALTs can be trained into Covops, or Blackops warfare, or intel, or hauling. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/25 "2023-10-26T12:30:58Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > dictionaries added “meme” before it was used by anyone? Dictionaries added “meme” after the term was coined and first published in the book ‘The Selfish Gene’ which is still considered one of the foremost works on modern genetics. The use of meme you’re thinking of came somewhat later. ---
**Author:** ![Danuvia\_Za](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/danuvia_za/32/459101_2.png) [@Danuvia\_Za](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Danuvia_Za)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/26 "2023-10-26T20:31:09Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > Anyone else had the same experience? Yes. Helps to make new goals for yourself, of which there are innumerable in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/27 "2023-10-27T05:11:30Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > Do you think dictionaries added “meme” before it was used by anyone? Just curious Do you think Dictionaries have a definition for the term “Quiet”? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/28 "2023-10-27T05:41:59Z")
Yes nobody is as quiet as me ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/29 "2023-10-27T05:43:42Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > Dictionaries are not an authority O.o Depends which dictionary we’re talking about The Oxford English Dictionary or Merriam Webster, very much an authority. Wesfahrn’s Lexicon Of Made Up Words Nobody Else Uses, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/30 "2023-10-27T05:49:52Z")
![IMG_3640](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/e/dae655551c1d03da2bccb03088a9905c441dbf7a.jpeg) Good Afternoon! ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/31 "2023-10-27T15:23:59Z")
English dictionaries are private enterprises that record usage - not state run entities with the powers of enforcement. An organization’s decision to accept a specific dictionary as a codified reference is the business of the specific organization. The dictionaries themselves, nor the private entities that produce them, actually have no authority over a speaker’s usage. They record - not command. –On the other hand, Gadget side-eyes French… ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/32 "2023-10-27T15:43:13Z")
judges refer to regular dictionaries from the time a law was written when they are analyzing/applying the words of that law ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/33 "2023-10-27T15:50:18Z")
And they may do so. Who decides WHICH dictionary to use? The individual judge - or their higher organization. They may also have a specific law dictionary they prefer - there are plenty to pick from. But they can change at anytime - according to their organization’s policies or whims. –Gadget just uses google… ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/34 "2023-10-31T12:44:37Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > with the powers of enforcement. authority /ə-thôr′ĭ-tē, ə-thŏr′-, ô-/ ### noun 1. The power to enforce laws, exact obedience, command, determine, or judge. 2. One that is invested with this power, especially a government or body of government officials. “land titles issued by the civil authority.” 1. Power assigned to another; authorization. “Deputies were given authority to make arrests.” 1. A public agency or corporation with administrative powers in a specified field. “a city transit authority.” **5. An accepted source of expert information or advice.** “a noted authority on birds; a reference book often cited as an authority.” 1. A quotation or citation from such a source. “biblical authorities for a moral argument.” 1. Justification; grounds. “On what authority do you make such a claim?” * * * The RSPB is an authority on birds but has no power to command or enforce birdiness. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/35 "2023-10-31T14:09:48Z")
What’s your source for these definitions? It’s likely one I don’t accept as an authority… 😆 Again, English Dictionaries are for-profit organizations that COLLECT usage, not dictate it. If an individual or an organization chooses to use a specific dictionary as a policy guide, then that’s their decision. Another person or organization may not choose to use said dictionary as a guide. The French Government literally has control over the French language. –Gadget takes from here and there ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/36 "2023-10-31T14:19:55Z")
The thread is about words now? Let’s bring William Shakespeare! He created the word: [bump](http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/romeo_1_3.html) Shakespeare created the word bump and so he is the great- grandfather of [http://www.minerbumping.com/](http://www.minerbumping.com/), there would be no bumping without Shakespeare ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/37 "2023-10-31T14:31:30Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > The French Government literally has control over the French language. The Immortals actually aren’t a governmental organisation they’re academic. Welsh has two similar bodies, both academic, both with similar authority, one for Northern Welsh and one for Southern Welsh. > [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > Again, English Dictionaries are for-profit organizations that COLLECT usage, not dictate it. I feel like you’re being obtuse. An academic authority has studied something and has knowledge, not control. This is still authority. The word authority has more than one meaning. The world’s foremost authority on particle physics does not control physics, they only have the greatest current knowledge of physics. This is not an ambiguous use of the term. ---
**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/38 "2023-10-31T14:37:10Z")
I grinded a dictionary with an Omega and bought an Encyclopedia. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/39 "2023-10-31T15:49:58Z")
From my end it sure looks like the Académie is government controlled - but I’m not French, so there’s that. But France accepts them as their authority on the French language - which brings me to… If YOU choose a specific English dictionary as an authority, it doesn’t mean that anyone else does. English Dictionaries aren’t actual authorities - they have to be recognized to act as such by their users. And since there are hundreds of English Dictionaries available, if each dictionary was an authority, then which one would be ‘right’? The answer is none of them, because they compete for customers. They ALL want to be your authority - none of them are by default. That’s the point I’m trying to get across. I hope that helps. –Gadget authorized this post ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839/40 "2023-10-31T16:30:09Z")
This is incorrect. You can choose not to recognise an authority, but that doesn’t make it less so. An authority has it’s own credentials and basis. It is not subjective, and they can absolutely be in disagreement and still both be authorities. This happens all the time. My example of Bangor and Aberystwyth Welsh language authorities is a good one, the north/south divide is circumstantial, both are authorities on the Welsh language which has no official subdivisions. They disagree on fundamental words. Llewynog and Cadno are both, for examples, words for ‘Fox’. Both institutions are recognised authorities, including by the Welsh government. If you choose not to recognise it, well that’s your issue. The local governments of South Korea and of Taiwan both share a situation where another government does not recognise their authority. They are still clearly authorities. The OED and Miriam Webster are both authorities. You can argue that you don’t recognise them but it doesn’t matter. They’re still authorities. They can still back up their credentials, they can provide their established methods of operation and the qualification they use to include words in their dictionaries. They disagree with each other (Miriam Webster butchered spellings, for example, and the two don’t agree on the spelling of ‘colour’). It doesn’t matter. They’re both still authorities. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-grinded-isk-with-an-alpha-and-bought-omega/424839.md?page=3)