# I have been looking high and low, but everywhere there's someone

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 4, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102 "2018-11-04T02:33:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Julanna\_Egnald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julanna_egnald/32/275350_2.png) [@Julanna\_Egnald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julanna_Egnald)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/81 "2018-11-11T01:38:27Z")

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You can look at see statistics to see how many jumps have happened from 30 minutes to 24 hours ago. Also how many ships and pods have been destroyed. It’s quite handy.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/82 "2018-11-11T02:15:57Z")

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You need the Geography and Statistics setting. Its easy.

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/83 "2018-11-11T05:45:44Z")

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Ok, admittedly I have not opened it up in a long time because of my inability to understand how to properly read it, I’m definitely wishy washy about some things.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/84 "2018-11-11T07:57:52Z")

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it’s all part of the game play, the excitement of being hunted and being able to avoid them.

you could also grab a couple of mates and bait yourselves a few kills.

> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> The ONLY option to enjoy PVE is in high sec

when you can only see one option your doing it wrong, it would have taken you less time to google an option than make and respond to this thread.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/85 "2018-11-11T11:12:07Z")

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> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> Actually, many don’t want contact not because of being antisocial but because it always seems to end badly so most people don’t want to take that risk.

Then they may want to play WoW 😛

Contact is what EVE is built upon, its pretty much impossible to avoid all contact and interactions with other players, and this is by design

> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> Even tho this is a game the nature of RL still has influence, there are locks on our doors on our house, locks on our bedrooms, locks on personal effects, barbed wire wasn’t enough so we invented razor wire, we have security cameras, security glass, security for security, dogs, guns, knives, ect, because people are just not good creatures so NOT wanting contact isn’t some disease or neurosis it is smart to avoid people in game because the anonymity provides people the ability to unleash their ugliest desires on others without reprisal, problem is that some of us don’t have this “need” to associate with others to mitigate BS.

No idea what exactly this section even related to if i’m honest, EVE is a PvP game, the P’s stand for Player, there being 2 of them indicates that interactions generally require more than 1 player, the MM in MMO also should have made this fairly clear, here is the thing, this is how the game is designed, this is how the game is meant to be played, if this style of gameplay does not meet up with your needs then there is a solution, find another game 😛

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/86 "2018-11-11T16:46:22Z")

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The whole thing to simplify is this, people avoid as much as possible others in game because you just never know who’s gonna have a thing up their wazoo.  
I’ve been in game since 2010 in all that time my interactions with others has been friendly (with the exception of 1 time), but the other side of the coin has been that most non-invitational interactions have been hostile or some kind of shenanigans to get some reaction.  
So when I post that yeah I avoid as much contact as possible it’s not out of ‘antisocial’ as it is to avoid a one-sided interaction for the amusement of someone who’s cup is never filled.

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**Author:** ![Aetrid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetrid/32/77858_2.png) [@Aetrid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetrid)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/87 "2018-11-11T23:33:36Z")

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You’ve been playing since 2010 and don’t know how to use the map?..and don’t know what you need to do when you don’t know something in EvE?

Obviously you don’t want to know.

Your (non) problems are of your own making.

Behold, the future of EvE!

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/88 "2018-11-12T06:20:10Z")

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Yeah I’m around off and on through the years but eve isn’t my life again I do the activity I want, if you know every nook and cranny of eve good for you.  
The map isn’t as important when you live in high and becomes more relevant when you start to get around in the lower realms which so far hasn’t provide me with a reason to continue to go to low or WH, or null as always looking behind you’re back isn’t my cup of tea and is more of a chore then entertainment which is my goal.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/89 "2018-11-12T06:21:19Z")

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> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> The whole thing to simplify is this, people avoid as much as possible others in game because you just never know who’s gonna have a thing up their wazoo.

And this is a problem because?

> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> I’ve been in game since 2010 in all that time my interactions with others has been friendly (with the exception of 1 time), but the other side of the coin has been that most non-invitational interactions have been hostile or some kind of shenanigans to get some reaction.

Yes, that is how PvP generally works, people don’t pre-arrange times to fight each other like kids on a playground, if you undock you risk getting shot at, this IS the nature of EVE, which you are already well aware of, undocking makes any PvP invitational as you have invited them to shoot you by virtue of your ship existing outside of a station

> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> So when I post that yeah I avoid as much contact as possible it’s not out of ‘antisocial’ as it is to avoid a one-sided interaction for the amusement of someone who’s cup is never filled.

Then like i said, maybe consider something like WoW which will better suit your needs of invitational PvP

> [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](#):
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> The map isn’t as important when you live in high

Oh you poor poor thing, you must have clearly never flown through niarja and seen the massive concord blobs on gates as a result of suicide ganks, or flown in mission hubs where code like to frequently hunt for low effort kills, the map is a pretty useful tool regardless of where you live

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/90 "2018-11-12T06:24:01Z")

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Meh, Zzzzzz.

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/91 "2018-11-12T06:29:20Z")

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I do, but I do it cloaky style so don’t care because no need to, as I have said in the past if you are going to worry about a gank in high then that means you need to look at your plans.  
Don’t care about the lower realms anymore, waste of time in my opinion because I’m not trying to be a space lord or a pawn.

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**Author:** ![zen-vexor03\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-vexor03_lsg/32/105571_2.png) [@zen-vexor03\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-vexor03_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/92 "2018-11-12T08:51:43Z")

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> [@Cypherous](#):
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> Then like i said, maybe consider something like WoW which will better suit your needs of invitational PvP

This is a strong sentence. Let’s think for a second. What do you think is more profitable for CCP:

- players went from Eve to WoW
- WoW come to Eve

It’s just business, nothing personal

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**Author:** ![Amra\_Ni-Yesta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amra_ni-yesta/32/420140_2.png) [@Amra\_Ni-Yesta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amra_Ni-Yesta)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/93 "2018-11-12T10:50:42Z")

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A lot of poeple farm in wh space. What you have to learn is to collapse wh. Then you can be the static of someone else and be ganked. But if you life in a wh and you have ships you can change in it. Then you are able to be “alone” for a while.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-been-looking-high-and-low-but-everywhere-theres-someone/118102/94 "2019-02-10T10:50:44Z")

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