# I have sold a SKINR for 1 Million for error... where are the Devs? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Issues\ **Created:** [October 19, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-sold-a-skinr-for-1-million-for-error-where-are-the-devs/465144 "2024-10-19T15:14:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-sold-a-skinr-for-1-million-for-error-where-are-the-devs/465144/22 "2024-10-20T21:15:46Z")
ISP is not a problem. Server issues are CCP problem. Does this UI freeze look like an ISP problem to you?? I have other incidents like this where the UI would just freeze… particularly in the Paragon HUB… It’s not the ISP. The game runs correctly, but some elements are off… Instead of a cloacking device the UI shows the firework launcher… PS: Dcs are normally treated not as player error, nor an ISP problem, most of the time there should be an investigation before, there are cases and cases. Not by default… I’m also running on a Mac mini, and my system has never been more stable… no more random windows updates… ![uguog](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/c/0/3c0fdc5c2b18b7448ec24938e0c862f536eebce3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-sold-a-skinr-for-1-million-for-error-where-are-the-devs/465144/23 "2024-10-20T21:20:05Z")
Math is not your friend it seems… sorry I don’t wanna seem rude, but I’m just starting with the SKNR market and still have to find the best adjustments for the pricing… today I just adjusted all of my listings to around the below table… I had to factor in the Pattern (130 mil) costs, and the color palettes, plus the other materials. A Tier 7 75 Plexes, plus 150 Mil of materials, is near 600 mills. I was barely over 100-110%… Some unique patterns can run for 400-500 mil per run, and some colors can costs also 500-600 millions ( the unlimited palettes, and I have one, and Have to absorb it. they are sold at 58 mil each limited - Black Matte, check for yourself…) So if you find a 350 Plex Skin for a Marauder, believe me when I tell you that everything is calculated to the penny, and there are reasons for some prices… I also sold my first Skin at 180 mil Isk so barely a 20% gain… NEON line was an Elite line, with special patterns, and the higher costs is justified ( at least for me) and it was also a one day only try, probably I would have checked the market the day after, and adjusted it… normal practice… tasting the waters… I’ll let you know this are the normal pricing, where you have to factor in the costs, and they are about 100%. Then Some patterns and colors can easily DOUBLE the costs for any given Tier, so what is perceived for 200%, in reality is just a 100% plus hidden costs… T1 - 220K T2 - 355K T3 - 435K T4 - 475K T5 - 695k T6 - 795K T7 - 895K ---- Neon Skull was here… still have to add the hidden costs… T8 - 995K T9 - 1.1B T10 - 1.3B T11 - 1.5B T12 - 1.7B T13 -2.0B Plus ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-sold-a-skinr-for-1-million-for-error-where-are-the-devs/465144/24 "2024-10-22T18:03:05Z")
I was advocating for a BIG RED BUTTON years ago… but apart from the BIG RED BUTTON, that would alert you when you are doing something extremely stupid, like selling something for -99% of its value, or an order that would cost you let say a minimum of 10% of your total wealth… a simple POP UP should alert you that your wallet is not infinite… Apart from it, the sell mechanism in the Paragon HUB is super synthetic and SMALL. And it has NO POPS UP of any sort. So if you are making an error selling a SKIN for 1 BILLION Plexes, it will not alert you. LUCKILY, when you sell in PLEX; the broker doesn’t require to pay your taxes in PLEXES TOO… a simple UI for the Paragon Hub shop is much needed, a UI that should tell you the overall value of your listings to the medium price, AND a simple POP UP, to further assist the players in CONCENTRATE on the DETAILS. ![Screenshot 2024-10-22 at 19.56.29](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/2/a/72ae580c3969f11534f927ff792fcbab68d4e0b7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-sold-a-skinr-for-1-million-for-error-where-are-the-devs/465144/25 "2024-10-24T09:33:23Z")
It looks like other people has made errors, and unable to change it. Or maybe it was on purpose to try recover some of the initial investments. There are too many copies of a same design now for many of the flag ships i.e. Marauders. 100K Isk for a T4 is way below the price for even a T1. It’s losing Isk. But I understand. Unable to modify a Skin. Unable to modify the naming. The filter by hull is convenient. ![Screenshot 2024-10-24 at 11.28.55](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/7/9/9792675645ad148c057ceeafb5ea2c28f2b3f1d8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-have-sold-a-skinr-for-1-million-for-error-where-are-the-devs/465144/26 "2025-01-22T09:34:07Z")
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