# I love the Avalanche for HS travel

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [November 24, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662 "2025-11-24T19:35:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/1 "2025-11-24T19:35:35Z")

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This ship is slow, but it’s better than any of the faction freighters.

It is the only ship I know of that has enough capacitor and CPU to fit and run a Large Shield Booster. It’s completely cap stable. Not even the Orca can do that and it needs a lot of cap to run all of its modules. The Bowhead lacks the CPU so it can’t even fit one.

As for cargo, the Avalanche carries more than a Jump Freighter and has up to a 3 million m3 infrastructure hold that carries so much more than it probably should.

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**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/2 "2025-11-24T20:37:57Z")

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If you need the booster, you’ve already failed as a hauler.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/3 "2025-11-24T21:19:37Z")

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I’ve never needed it. My freighters and hauler have never been attacked. Ever. It’s just such a fun module. Ive been through Uedama so many times in so many ships.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/4 "2025-11-24T22:22:20Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> It is the only ship I know of that has enough capacitor and CPU to fit and run a Large Shield Booster.

Why would you use a large shield booster though on an Avalanche?

You’d get much more EHP out of other options, like additional shield resistances.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> It’s completely cap stable.

Why would you even care though? How long is an engagement going to last? 20 seconds? 50?

As long as your capacitor lasts long enough that your resistances aren’t turned off during the fight you’ll be fine.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> As for cargo, the Avalanche carries more than a Jump Freighter and has up to a 3 million m3 infrastructure hold that carries so much more than it probably should.

I’d hope so.

Jump Freighters have much smaller cargoholds than regular freighters and the Avalanche is a specialized freighter with a much larger specialized cargo hold.

Personally I’ve never seen the need to fly an Avalanche yet. It’s slow, big, expensive and carries much more than I’d ever want to carry.

The Torrent is a fantastic hauler if I’ve got large amounts of infrastructure goods and I have not yet seen a reason to scale up. Usually instead I scale down in size as the Deluge is a fair bit faster and safer. Or move my stuff in a Jump Freighter if I’ve got a large load that needs moving a bit faster than multiple trips in a Deluge/Torrent.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/5 "2025-11-24T22:40:27Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Why would you use a large shield booster though on an Avalanche?
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> You’d get much more EHP out of other options, like additional shield resistances

It was done for fun because any and every time I would mention a high tank on a freighter, someone would respond with, “You know a breacher pod doesn’t care about resistances.” Without fail. Every single time. Even though no one in high sec ever uses breacher pods. So I thought it would be fun to add a booster so that I could respond saying that I have a rep installed.

The booster replaced the capital flex hardener I used to have installed. It still has great resistances and high EHP.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/6 "2025-11-24T22:41:33Z")

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People have used breacher pods in high sec to gank freighters before.

But now that they’ve got a massive duration and top dps nerf it’s going to take many more Cenotaphs to kill freighters like before so I doubt we’ll see it again.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/7 "2025-11-24T22:49:47Z")

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Very true.

As for cargo, the 200,000 m3 normal space is huge for a specialized freighter. You’re right about the infrastructure hold being overly big, but with the keepstar size as well as fiel and fit, it was needed, but perhaps they went a bit overboard.

The speed and cost is equal to a Bowhead and only slightly more expensive than an Orca. It’s nothing compared to the cost of a Jump Freighter though.

I use mine to haul around the 4m Heavy Water I bought some time ago.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/8 "2025-11-25T16:27:08Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Why would you use a large shield booster though on an Avalanche?
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> You’d get much more EHP out of other options, like additional shield resistances.

Honestly impossible to find a single angle from which an LSB, specifically, makes sense. Even if you’re adamant that the booster should be on there at all (it shouldn’t), why a large? Why not an XLASB?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/9 "2025-11-25T16:44:42Z")

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It won’t fit an XL. Just saying. CCP has decreed. As for why I fit it, that’s been answered.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/10 "2025-11-25T16:48:30Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> It won’t fit an XL. Just saying.

Yes it will. Just saying.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/11 "2025-11-25T16:59:02Z")

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I’ll try it just for fun then. I mean it already has a substantial tank.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/12 "2025-11-25T17:32:34Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> I mean it already has a substantial tank.

It has a substantial tank even when it’s bare, that’s no reason to run around with a fit that doesn’t make sense.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/13 "2025-11-25T17:40:17Z")

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There are a fair amount of them destroyed in high sec. And the fit makes perfect sense when it’s assembled by a madman like myself. Mine hasn’t been ganked.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/14 "2025-11-25T17:57:22Z")

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You would need to run an LSB for almost 3 minutes to make up the EHP delta of fitting the LSB instead of just throwing another invuln on it, or 36 seconds to make up the raw HP difference Vs. just slapping an LSE on it. 23 if you’re running a full HG crystal set (lol).

The longest concord response time is something like 20 seconds. Any ganking engagement is guaranteed to be over, for better or worse, before you can net positive on your LSB.

Even the XLASB will have to cycle about 4 times before it’s more raw HP than an LSE, and will still be less total EHP than using another hardener by the time the gank/attempt has concluded.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/15 "2025-11-25T18:00:12Z")

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As stated above, I hadn’t known it would fit an XL. With that aside, if I choose, I could always go back to the Capital Flex Hardener and give it even more resistances.

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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/16 "2025-11-25T19:26:18Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> As stated above, I hadn’t known it would fit an XL

Okay but the point is that the XL is still just better than the patently ridiculous LSB without actually being better than just throwing another invuln on it.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> With that aside, if I choose, I could always go back to the Capital Flex Hardener and give it even more resistances.

Yes, sure, almost anything you could put there is better than an LSB.

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**Author:** ![Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yengwayo_zembutoo/32/456345_2.png) [@Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yengwayo_Zembutoo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/17 "2025-11-26T03:39:49Z")

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Don’t brag, that attracts unwanted attention to you, shhh, loose lips skin ships.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/18 "2025-11-26T04:42:05Z")

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Unpopular Facts: CCP loves nerfing things you love..😀

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-the-avalanche-for-hs-travel/501662/19 "2026-02-24T04:42:43Z")

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