# I miss shooting people for fun. Please help me

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 6, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177 "2019-09-06T19:37:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/116 "2019-09-07T17:05:47Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> Yes, the forum alt he created 4 years before he created his main.

Just because it’s an old character doesn’t mean you can’t pull it out of mothballs for a new purpose, Sol.

Don’t be so disingenuous.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/117 "2019-09-07T17:07:07Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> > Yes, the forum alt he created 4 years before he created his main.
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> Just because it’s an old character doesn’t mean you can’t pull it out of mothballs for a new purpose, Sol.
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> Don’t be so disingenuous.

Yes, the old character that’s been actively doing other things in EVE for years, made for the sol purpose (see what I did there) of shilling on the forums. A plan set in motion nearly a decade ago.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/118 "2019-09-07T17:09:00Z")

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The lady doth protest too much , methinks.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/119 "2019-09-07T17:09:22Z")

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Yes, if someone denies an accusation, that totally means they’re guilty or that the accusation is true.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/120 "2019-09-07T17:10:35Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> It’s a correct tool for the job of mining.  
> Still _you_ are claiming that they can tank it to create risk for the ganker.

It’s one tool for mining, it’s not the tool you use if you want to mine while having a tank.

If you want to mine with a tank, it’s the wrong tool for the job.

> You, try harder. You affirm there is risk for the gankers, but remain elusive on the topic.  
> Because there is literally ZERO risk for the ganker.

I’m not here to spell it out for you, if you can’t see it that’s not my problem.

There is potential risk for the ganker, but only if people provide it for them; but they don’t because ignorance and laziness.

> Fitting a proper tank for instance increases the gankers risk of failure.  
> Is a lie.

/shakes head.

No, it’s not; part of fitting a tank is choosing the correct platform to build upon.

You don’t build a fortress on a sandy foundation do you?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/121 "2019-09-07T17:11:49Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Tanking them does reduce cargo space, but if you have bulk to haul there’s always RF

And then you are better using a sunesis for hauling, with 2s align and 1k cargo room.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/122 "2019-09-07T17:14:12Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> Yes, if someone denies an accusation, that totally means they’re guilty or that the accusation is true.

I’ll wait until you angrily edit that a few more times and then respond. I wouldn’t want to interrupt your righteous rage.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/123 "2019-09-07T17:15:50Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> > Yes, if someone denies an accusation, that totally means they’re guilty or that the accusation is true.
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> I’ll wait until you angrily edit that a few more times and then respond. I wouldn’t want to interrupt your righteous rage.

Ok, sounds good to me.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/124 "2019-09-07T17:16:14Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Nereus, Wreathe, Badger and the Sigil are the best ones for it. I tend to fly the Nereus myself but others have had good results with the others.
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> Tanking them does reduce cargo space, but if you have bulk to haul there’s always RF

Playing around in Pyfa now.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/125 "2019-09-07T17:19:08Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> If you want to mine with a tank, it’s the wrong tool for the job.

And that litteraly says the opposite of what you said before, that is

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Fitting a proper tank

Thank you for aknowledging that you were saying BS.

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> I’m not here to spell it out for you

Yeah you are just affirming BS again.  
There is practically zero risk for the ganker.

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> No, it’s not; part of fitting a tank is choosing the correct platform to build upon.

No it’s not. Fitting a tank is selecting the modules for tank.

> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You don’t build a fortress on a sandy foundation do you?

unrelated comparison is unrelated. YOU claimed they can FIT tank on their barge, but at the same time you agree they can’t.

Your only point is that people should not use the covetor in HS, nor retriever, only proc, and only fitted full tank ; which people are starting to do and then the procs are also ganked.  
And this still makes ZERO risk for the gankers. And still they will complain that there are less people to gank, more bots that instant warp off, that the game is dying and not realize they actively worked to make this game dead.  
Soon you will claim that it’s the fault of the ganked for having logged in. Such an hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/126 "2019-09-07T17:20:01Z")

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This thread has a couple of Nereus fits.

> [@Looking for Guide on Fitting out the Nereus Hauler](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/looking-for-guide-on-fitting-out-the-nereus-hauler/161788):
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> Hi, Does anyone know where I can find a guide to fitting out the Nereus Hauler? Just a general all round fitting for a new player will do. Most of the guide I find assumes the viewer knows all the abbreviations, and game lingo. The presenters talk extremely fast and whiz their mouse around which might be ok for players who have been playing for years. What I am looking for is a basic step by step guide presented at a reasonable pace that assumes the newbie knows nothing of the game. A how …

If your googlefu is strong @Remiel_Pollard posted some nasty ones on the old forums too

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/127 "2019-09-07T17:23:31Z")

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Hey thanks man. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/128 "2019-09-07T17:42:09Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> OP would instead have waited for him to loot the wreck, explained him that it is a bug and he needs to set his security to yellow, and killed him after that. And he would be proud of it. And then he wonders why the game is dying.

… and still in this scenario the newbro would have learned a lot more than in your’s.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/129 "2019-09-07T17:47:47Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> > OP would instead have waited for him to loot the wreck, explained him that it is a bug and he needs to set his security to yellow, and killed him after that. And he would be proud of it. And then he wonders why the game is dying.
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> … and still in this scenario the newbro would have learned a lot more than in your’s.

A lot of former WT’s of mine (from when I was doing solo WarDecs) went on to leave HiSec and join more PvP/risk oriented groups. Sure, some quit, but they’d have probably gotten bored running missions and quit anyway sooner or later so.

Net benefit.

Some people just don’t understand that EVE is a game based around conflict, and you can be shot and blown up everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/130 "2019-09-07T17:49:46Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> … and still in this scenario the newbro would have learned a lot more than in your’s.

Yeah he would heave learnt it’s not worth his time to play it ? That people don’t give him correct advices, that the game gives stupid advices, that basically he has no reason to make any effort in that game ?  
And you still don’t get this behavior is bad ?

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/131 "2019-09-07T17:51:12Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> > … and still in this scenario the newbro would have learned a lot more than in your’s.
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> Yeah he would heave learnt it’s not worth his time to play it ? That people don’t give him correct advices, that the game gives stupid advices, that basically he has no reason to make any effort in that game ?  
> And you still don’t get this behavior is bad ?

So why do you play EVE at all?

All you ever seem to have are negative comments about it.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/133 "2019-09-07T18:02:41Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> That’s because you quitted school too early and did not learn to read.

Actually applying to grad school this year, but ok.

I don’t really give your posts thorough reads (usually just skim or skip) but when I do read, it’s always negativity about either the game, CCP, or other players. Is there anything you actually like about EVE?

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/134 "2019-09-07T18:03:53Z")

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Nice the school will have a new cleaning lady.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/135 "2019-09-07T18:05:42Z")

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-miss-shooting-people-for-fun-please-help-me/188177/136 "2019-09-07T18:08:18Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> usually just skim or skip

Well you answer your own question. Too bad you still suck at reading.

Now I have to apologize, butI have something more interesting to do than to answer your posts. Like watching the clouds.

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