# I PVE to pay for PVP, but I want to PVP solo... pointless? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 14, 2023, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579 "2023-07-14T04:51:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Galacticon\_Drakonianc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galacticon_drakonianc/32/379412_2.png) [@Galacticon\_Drakonianc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galacticon_Drakonianc)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/41 "2023-07-22T04:08:56Z")
Fair fights don’t exist. Get over this naivety and you’ll be alright. ---
**Author:** ![Quentin\_Schaefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quentin_schaefer/32/471507_2.png) [@Quentin\_Schaefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quentin_Schaefer)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/42 "2023-07-23T19:40:52Z")
> [@Galacticon\_Drakonianc](#): > > naivety naïveté Fixed it for you. What can I say except “You’re welcome!” ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/43 "2023-07-24T08:32:28Z")
So what ship should I buy 50 of to git gud? Note: Catalyst doesnt count, Ive done my time on that particular barge ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/44 "2023-07-24T09:41:36Z")
You’ll need a REAL pvp ship - most likely a covetor, unless you can afford a hulk ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/45 "2023-07-24T09:51:26Z")
I would suggest flying a Procurer as many gankers are scared to pvp you in one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/46 "2023-07-24T17:46:07Z")
I already fly a Orca but I dont seem to get the kills. What do? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/47 "2023-07-24T17:49:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > What do? 1 billion isk. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/48 "2023-07-24T19:57:44Z")
Last time I got ransomed, I tried to explain to them that buying the ship at the price I named would net them 100,000m more than the amount they wanted me to pay them. Silly dicks shot me instead of taking the offer and got iron scraps. Im starting to think shooting folks is more in demand than money. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/49 "2023-07-24T21:04:06Z")
Isk is worthless. Killmails are the only thing that shows you were ever here. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/50 "2023-07-24T21:05:27Z")
Maybe not everyone sees the point in appearing to be somewhere ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/51 "2023-07-24T21:07:19Z")
Those are plebs. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/52 "2023-07-24T21:13:43Z")
So they are common? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/53 "2023-07-24T21:13:57Z")
Yes, that’s what I said. Look, here is one now… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/54 "2023-07-24T21:14:28Z")
This is probably the dumbest thread that @Aiko_Danuja had recently written that we will read ever! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/55 "2023-07-24T21:15:59Z")
Common folk who appear nowhere… Sounds like this silent majority I keep hearing about Anyway, back to the question. 50 ships, what hull? ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/56 "2023-07-24T21:26:03Z")
Navy Hookbill. Good range of engagements, lots of practice with range control, speed, tackling. Gives you a little leeway by how good it is in average engagements, but lots of room to excel in it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/57 "2023-07-24T21:38:07Z")
Catalyst. Best ship in the game. Aerodynamic, turns on a dime. Top speed exceeding 2000 times the speed of light. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/58 "2023-07-28T05:20:49Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Common folk who appear nowhere… > > Sounds like this silent majority I keep hearing about > > Anyway, back to the question. > > 50 ships, what hull? I would second the hookbill. A ton of different ways to configure it to deal with different targets for brawling and nano stuff. Can eat destroyers as well. You could do well with a comet and to a lesser extent a firetail. I wouldn’t go straight t1 frig, they generally aren’t quite capable enough to deal with anything other than other t1 frigs ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/59 "2023-07-28T05:52:11Z")
T1 frigs require careful matchups, good piloting, and good positioning, and when done this way they can punch up and kill faction and T2 frigates. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-pve-to-pay-for-pvp-but-i-want-to-pvp-solo-pointless/412579/60 "2023-07-29T02:26:13Z")
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