# \[I-RED\] Public Release: Thebeka Affair **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [January 10, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581 "2019-01-10T19:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sah\_Phyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sah_phyre/32/378085_2.png) [@Sah\_Phyre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sah_Phyre)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/21 "2019-01-10T22:45:11Z")
Have you considered the slim, nearly implausible possibility that the decision to join the war was taken at some point _during_ these four weeks? I’m just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/22 "2019-01-10T22:55:36Z")
> [@Sah\_Phyre](#): > > Have you considered the slim, nearly implausible possibility that the decision to join the war was taken at some point _during_ these four weeks? I’ve considered that it’s pretty much a given that the decision to join the war was made… _today_. That’s why preparations are beginning _today_. Had the decision been made in the last four weeks, we could have expected to see ships beginning to arrive ever since the decision was made, in total safety. You know, as part of the ‘planning and preparing in advance’ phase of things. I’d express _some_ degree of surprise at just how incredibly incompetent most of these efforts have been… but I’ve _seen_ the fits you fly. Once I got back up off the floor from laughing at the way Khimi Harar fits a Guardian, really, none of it’s much surprised me since. ---
**Author:** ![Creetalor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/creetalor/32/162800_2.png) [@Creetalor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Creetalor)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/23 "2019-01-10T22:58:42Z")
Pruning leaves of a tree in Fall is a wasted endeavor. However one can plan the raking of the leaves. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/24 "2019-01-10T23:04:37Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > That’s why preparations are beginning _today_ Preparations began several days ago I would imagine. They were certainly making enough trips with their bowhead yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/25 "2019-01-10T23:14:46Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > laughing at the way Khimi Harar fits a Guardian The hell is wrong with my cheap Guardian fit? ---
**Author:** ![Sah\_Phyre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sah_phyre/32/378085_2.png) [@Sah\_Phyre](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sah_Phyre)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/26 "2019-01-10T23:16:18Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Had the decision been made in the last four weeks, we could have expected to see ships beginning to arrive ever since the decision was made, in total safety. Well, if you’re so convinced of your own omniscience, I see no reason to dissent any further. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/27 "2019-01-10T23:40:56Z")
I’ll tell you after the next set of timers. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/28 "2019-01-10T23:41:46Z")
Remember, I’m on a budget. Your criticisms better keep it under 300 mil. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/29 "2019-01-10T23:42:36Z")
325, actually. But you know what the 55M price difference gets you? Dead logi gives no reps. Just ask poor Aisling. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/30 "2019-01-11T09:38:28Z")
> [@Julianni\_Avala](#): > > As of 11.01.121 - 00:00 Hours the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive will be declaring hostilities against aggressive actors in orbit of Thebeka III. You _cowards_. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/31 "2019-01-11T10:08:36Z")
Clearly she is still upset about her low position on the priority list. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/32 "2019-01-11T10:13:31Z")
Compared to the people who are _leaving_? This is the purest definition of lip-service. Showing up just in time to say they were there, and applying themselves to the absolute minimum of risk and effort. They didn’t even dec _Samira_ for spirits sake. They could have sat in Syndicate and said “Booo” and it would have had about as much impact. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Revenent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_revenent/32/414772_2.png) [@John\_Revenent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Revenent)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/33 "2019-01-11T10:57:19Z")
Booo. The declaration of intent isn’t even 24 hours old and people are making assumptions. Or maybe we have a ‘leak’ we’re unaware of funneling you false information? Either way how we plan our operations along side the Amarrians isn’t really up for debate. EDIT: I forgot to mention that I feel our comrades in the Heiian Conglomerate are doing well enough dealing with other elements. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/34 "2019-01-11T11:02:28Z")
You _are_ aware you declared a war right? When you make a statement like > [@Julianni\_Avala](#): > > the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive will be declaring hostilities against aggressive actors in orbit of Thebeka III. and then only declare hostilities against one of the three “aggressive actors”, and even then you pick the one who have just declared their intent to _leave_ the theatre… it kind of comes across as chickening out. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Revenent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_revenent/32/414772_2.png) [@John\_Revenent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Revenent)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/35 "2019-01-11T11:03:22Z")
View it as you wish. It doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/36 "2019-01-11T11:08:36Z")
> We remain most concerned by the presence of Minmatar terrorists, heretics, anarchists and criminal elements operating in Thebeka, and would wish loyal capsuleers to now concentrate their efforts on removing enemies of Amarr from our space. You are fourth on the list. Wait in the queue like everyone else and we will crush you shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/37 "2019-01-11T11:12:00Z")
I have to say that while obviously I feel differently than the Angel about the _compliment_ value of your initial choices, I have to agree with her otherwise. It _does_ make you look a bit funny when you escalate a conflict that is about to end anyway, but not others. Almost as if you’re trying to convince us all to _stay_? ---
**Author:** ![Fifinella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifinella/32/278439_2.png) [@Fifinella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifinella)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/38 "2019-01-11T11:14:48Z")
Maybe, secretly, they want us to stay? Hey Amarr, are you lonely? ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/39 "2019-01-11T11:22:15Z")
It would seem more that it took the Amarr more than four weeks to gather up enough people and allies to have a shot at the Astrahus, and they’re probably rather desperate to actually be able to point at a “victory” in their own heartlands that isn’t Petty Theft Raitaru. So much for their claim that they wanted us out of here. ---
**Author:** ![Julianni\_Avala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julianni_avala/32/356243_2.png) [@Julianni\_Avala](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julianni_Avala)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581/40 "2019-01-11T13:10:16Z")
It is true that people will have their own speculations as to the reasoning behind I-RED’s decision to join beside their long-standing allies. It is a reality that must be faced. No matter what decision was made, (no matter when it was decided and announced), certain parties would of course be expected to speak out against it. That is the way of things. What matters is that I-RED’s business partners and allies understand the truth behind the matter. I would encourage both I-RED and their allies to remember this, instead of giving in to taunting. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-red-public-release-thebeka-affair/132581.md?page=3)