# I regret to inform that we still don't die enough

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**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [November 15, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-regret-to-inform-that-we-still-dont-die-enough/336984 "2021-11-15T16:34:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-regret-to-inform-that-we-still-dont-die-enough/336984/1017 "2021-12-21T13:16:41Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> There is a guy who was in Uedama with a burst Osprey doing great work, saving people quite often, but time and time again in would jump a person with max cargo who would die so quickly as they had no buffer. How many times could you keep at it if you saw this happen again and again? How much fun is that?
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> The gankers often ask the question why do you bother trying to save stupid people like that and they have a point. I and many other AG have stopped a lot of ganks, but the biggest issue is that most people who are victims have made seriously bad choices and have no clue what to do, it is not being lazy, it is more often than not trying to save dumb people who have no idea at all.

Yup, at some point even the must truest of anti pirate/AG goes “fck it, you deserve to burn” and a massive antipathy grows until:

> [@Event sites and looters](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/event-sites-and-looters/341540/120):
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> Anti pirates generally, and inevitably, turn into pirates themselves. At some point they just get annoyed by the lack of effort, knowledge and braincells of the ones they are trying to save and the effort it takes to save them.
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> It’s normal.

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