# I returned for 50 hours after a year. Feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** feedback\ **Created:** [June 1, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998 "2024-06-01T22:38:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Melanol\_Telin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melanol_telin/32/466899_2.png) [@Melanol\_Telin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melanol_Telin)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/1 "2024-06-01T22:38:26Z")
The only reason I returned was to play Eve with Artosis. The game is still boring. Chat was dying from boredom (1k+ viewers). We jumped into FW, because it is supposed to be the least boring thing in Eve. It isn’t. You wait half an hour hoping an enemy comes, and, if it is solo, one of you just jumps away. We had a Chinese gang in Amarr militia killing their own because they found a loophole in CCP’s game design allowing this. Mining is as boring as it has always been. I even made a miasmos fit to take naps while it is mining. Of course, devs never intended this, but it takes miasmos 3 hours to eat a big asteroid and 10 hours to fill the cargo hold. And the only content you can hope for in high sec is someone ganking you. Only abyssals were able to provide some kind of content. Recruitment spam never stops. Multiboxing is still disgusting. Having to use a browser tool to check all markets is big a design flaw. ---
**Author:** ![Cloe\_Farseer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cloe_farseer/32/420828_2.png) [@Cloe\_Farseer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cloe_Farseer)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/2 "2024-06-01T22:50:21Z")
Welcome back! Thank you for the feedback, I’m sure that the Devs will find it useful. Glad you enjoyed yourself for 50 hours! Stick around, Equinox is coming very soon, it’s going to get even more exciting! Fly Safe! o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/3 "2024-06-01T22:51:19Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > You wait half an hour hoping an enemy comes, and, if it is solo, one of you just jumps away Then BE the solo and don’t warp off. There’s your fights. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Of course, devs never intended this, but it takes miasmos 3 hours to eat a big asteroid and 10 hours to fill the cargo hold It’s not a mining ship, it’s an ore hauler meaning it’s **intended** to suck at mining. You’re doing it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Andres\_Talas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andres_talas/32/420871_2.png) [@Andres\_Talas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andres_Talas)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/4 "2024-06-01T22:52:48Z")
And this post, right here, is why newbie-focussed corps like Brave Newbies, Karmafleet and Pandemic Horde exist. Lone new players come in, get bored shitless, and leave. New players come in, join one of the big nullsec newbie groups, and you have constant action in Standing fleets against raiders, piles of free ships, access to mining where you get paid better but can’t AFK and fleet action. Sure, sometime later people might realise nullbloc life isnt for them, and leave for lowsec or wormhole or pochven or whatever, but in the meantime they get content on tap and a support structure. Or they can be alone in hisec, and realise this is a pretty terrible solo game. ---
**Author:** ![Melanol\_Telin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melanol_telin/32/466899_2.png) [@Melanol\_Telin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melanol_Telin)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/5 "2024-06-01T23:40:24Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > It’s not a mining ship, it’s an ore hauler meaning it’s **intended** to suck at mining. You’re doing it wrong. I expected some dummy to bait this. It’s not about the ship, it’s about nothing at all happening while you mine and the process of mining having 0 interactivity. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/6 "2024-06-01T23:52:41Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > The game is still boring. I added an extra 33 killboard records to one of my chars today. 140bn ISK worth of destruction. Great battle…shame you weren’t there. ---
**Author:** ![Melanol\_Telin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melanol_telin/32/466899_2.png) [@Melanol\_Telin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melanol_Telin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/7 "2024-06-02T00:04:31Z")
And how many years did you have to farm to get to this kind of action? ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/8 "2024-06-02T00:16:09Z")
Then don’t mine, it’s really simple. It’s almost as if you’re lazy and scared to then cry about how things aren’t happening for you because of it. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/9 "2024-06-02T00:34:08Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > And how many years did you have to farm to get to this kind of action? I’m still living off loot value gained from being in Wrecking Machine. Plus I do ratting and other stuff in lowsec, and mine a bit too. There is actually payment for being in Absolute Order battles…but I’ve never claimed it. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/10 "2024-06-02T01:28:11Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > The game is still boring. I mean go try another MMO? Pretty much the same stuff. Genshin, Star Trek Online, WoW… idk… All the same carnival style events all soiled into their corners. The other stuff is not much different. Warframe and Helldivers same loops. Same killing. So what do you really want out of an MMO? The best games I have played are singleplayer titles. ---
**Author:** ![Melanol\_Telin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melanol_telin/32/466899_2.png) [@Melanol\_Telin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melanol_Telin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/11 "2024-06-02T01:36:39Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Then don’t mine You won’t believe it, but it is not about me. ---
**Author:** ![Melanol\_Telin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melanol_telin/32/466899_2.png) [@Melanol\_Telin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melanol_Telin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/12 "2024-06-02T01:37:04Z")
Anyway, I am out. I provided feedback, do whatever you want with it. ---
**Author:** ![SwingFish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swingfish/32/449225_2.png) [@SwingFish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SwingFish)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/13 "2024-06-02T03:01:08Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > it’s about nothing at all happening while you mine it’s like you sign for a job in a Amazon Fulfillment center and then complaining that all you do is move boxes 😉 nobody put’s a gun on your head telling you to do it. and if you can;t do anything else, move your mining build 1-2 jumps into lowsec and the action will come to you is a very short amount of time. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/14 "2024-06-02T10:32:22Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Artosis Hmm didn’t know he played EVE too. Now that’s funny. I wonder if his EVE streams are the same as his Brood War ones with all the cesspool TTS popups and constant trolling. 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/15 "2024-06-02T10:48:05Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > The game is still boring Is not. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Chat was dying from boredom (1k+ viewers) Chat sucks in any game. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > You wait half an hour hoping an enemy comes, and, if it is solo, one of you just jumps away And that’s the game’s fault why? > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > We had a Chinese gang in Amarr militia killing their own because they found a loophole in CCP’s game design allowing this Seriously doubt. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > I even made a miasmos fit to take naps while it is mining. Of course, devs never intended this, but it takes miasmos 3 hours to eat a big asteroid and 10 hours to fill the cargo hold. And the only content you can hope for in high sec is someone ganking you You knew it was boring yet you still did it. You must be a blonde. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Only abyssals were able to provide some kind of content. So it wasn’t a total waste. Had you used your time to find content instead of napping AFK for 10h you might’ve found more content. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Recruitment spam never stops The mail setting might’ve helped if you’d figured out how to use it. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Multiboxing is still disgusting. Just showing what their mama gave 'em. > [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Having to use a browser tool to check all markets is big a design flaw It’s a smart way to cut on dev’s hours and let them use the time saved on more important things. See you next year! ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/16 "2024-06-02T11:41:20Z")
LIke every OP who posts some lame info and runs away when others provide their valid points. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/17 "2024-06-02T15:01:30Z")
You see that ? That’s the grim reality ! Some people never make it past the first molehill in our learning curve. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/18 "2024-06-02T16:09:39Z")
> [@Melanol\_Telin](#): > > Mining is as boring as it has always been. I even made a miasmos fit to take naps while it is mining. Of course, devs never intended this, but it takes miasmos 3 hours to eat a big asteroid and 10 hours to fill the cargo hold. And the only content you can hope for in high sec is someone ganking you. Here’s a neat trick: If you turn your mining laser off, your Miasmos can stay at that asteroid _ **forever** _ while ‘mining’ it! For the rest of your post: if you are bored, are expecting things to be boring and then decide to approach the game in the most boring way by mining in the slowest setup or by warping away from the fights you were looking for, maybe it’s not the game’s fault that you find it boring. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Rose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_rose/32/408778_2.png) [@Mina\_Rose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Rose)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/19 "2024-06-02T17:34:22Z")
You sit in a belt mining, feeling bored and restless, and then you come to the forum whining and call others “dummy”? Wow, dude. Please tell us how much assistance you need to put on a shirt in the morning, because that must be very difficult for someone as intelligence devoid as you are. I’m looking forward to a new post about that. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998/20 "2024-06-02T17:52:02Z")
> [@Mina\_Rose](#): > > I’m looking forward to a new post about that. I hope you’re patient because that won’t be for another year. OP has skidaddled and left excrements for ISD to pick up. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-returned-for-50-hours-after-a-year-feedback/450998.md?page=2)