# I think battleships and capital ships could use some minor improvements **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** improvements, pvp\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572 "2025-11-10T08:11:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/41 "2025-11-10T20:02:48Z")
Thanks for obliging me! ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/42 "2025-11-10T20:04:30Z")
You’re welcome! ---
**Author:** ![Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antihrist_pripravnik/32/502236_2.png) [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antihrist_Pripravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/43 "2025-11-10T23:35:23Z")
> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#): > > Not letting players put a shuttle in the escape bay is anti-sandbox Who said EVE is a sandbox? CCP’s marketing department? And you believe it? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/44 "2025-11-11T01:47:06Z")
The same marketing department that said Eve is Hard. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/45 "2025-11-11T12:37:26Z")
So what exactly is your proposal? Specifics please. And you specifically stated capital ships earlier which is why I assumed you meant null sec. Caps don’t exist in high. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/46 "2025-11-11T18:22:03Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Being either a vasall or just prey for the already organized power groups as soon as you hit a size that is worth beating down and looting isn’t one. Congratulations on describing the entirety of recorded Human history. You have been way too coddled by modern life and its false sense of security. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/47 "2025-11-11T18:54:37Z")
Who cares “human history”? CCP wants to sell a product. If they don’t make it possible for new players to at least see a reasonable chance to challenge other players or groups even if they play the game for years longer, those new players will - en masse - quit as soon as they realize how skeletized the system of power is. It’s simple business logic: your product has to be _attractive_. Else you can’t keep your customers paying for it. And the current EVE is simply _absolutely unattractive_ for new players and especially for new groups coming over from other games. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/48 "2025-11-11T19:16:12Z")
So join a corp as a new player. No one owes you anything just because you’re new. If you want power, go out and earn it. If you want my assets then come and see if you’ve the power to take them from me. This is Eve. You dont deserve anything you’re not strong enough to claim. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/3/93a5ac48550f7ca61e3a74c22a7df69578f0b395.jpeg "This is EVE - Uncensored") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0) ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/49 "2025-11-13T12:06:24Z")
If capital ships could fit a 50km capital SCARAB launcher, they could punch up and down. But SCARAB DoTs don’t stack, so in fleets they’d be mostly useless unless pilots were skilled. Imagine an FC calling primary and everyone trying to land SCARAB DoTs on it 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/50 "2025-11-13T16:53:42Z")
This is an Escape frigate. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/4/f/a4f4397a5c7d9cb9d902cb9f5a3bb63ce9f5cc67.png) Don’t be dumb Shuttles would be overpowered due to the stupid Null effect CCP added. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/51 "2025-11-13T19:18:08Z")
An escape bay that can’t fit ships suited for escaping doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-think-battleships-and-capital-ships-could-use-some-minor-improvements/500572/52 "2026-02-11T19:19:07Z")
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