# I understand CCP's desire to end AFK mining but come on **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [December 16, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735 "2019-12-16T06:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Luther\_Fairfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luther_fairfax/32/512563_2.png) [@Luther\_Fairfax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luther_Fairfax)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/1 "2019-12-16T06:21:15Z")
Hey Folks, [So when did rats start dropping into belts like this](http://prntscr.com/qbcpbi)? Last night I was just mining with some bros in a 0.6 HS system, somewhat AFK while doing some PI. Suddenly my friends and I see these guys on Dscan. Someone asked “wtf is a sansha venture?” Someone speculated they were mission NPC’s Within 15 seconds they were on grid. They point, web and rep, and they hate drones. A venture and a retriever were lost. If I didn’t have 15 hobs in cargo to throw at them, I would have lost my Orca as well. Can’t find any info about it, if it’s an anomally or when this was introduced. Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/2 "2019-12-16T07:19:47Z")
It’s been a while: > **[Pirate Forward Operating Bases](https://updates.eveonline.com/card/1VlH3/pirate-forward-operating-bases/)** > > Increased conflict over dwindling resources across New Eden has caused the Guristas and Blood Raiders to expand their influence and industrial capability, staging daring raids into high-security space... They do respect standing so you must have done some terrible things to their friends over the years to get such a response! But the good news is that there is a pirate structure in that system that you and your friends can go after to get your revenge. ---
**Author:** ![Terak\_Romaller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terak_romaller/32/374271_2.png) [@Terak\_Romaller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terak_Romaller)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/3 "2019-12-16T08:05:52Z")
Also, if you or once of your friends in fleet attacked that Sansha Venture thinking it was “a mission NPC” then their defence fleet warps in attacks you. It’s a Sansha mining ship, not a random easy bit of flying bounty ISK. Still, Shoot First… ---
**Author:** ![Guiliano\_Thellere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guiliano_thellere/32/327551_2.png) [@Guiliano\_Thellere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Guiliano_Thellere)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/4 "2019-12-16T14:37:33Z")
> [@Luther\_Fairfax](#): > > [So when did rats start dropping into belts like this](http://prntscr.com/qbcpbi)? About two years ago… ---
**Author:** ![Luther\_Fairfax](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luther_fairfax/32/512563_2.png) [@Luther\_Fairfax](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luther_Fairfax)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/5 "2019-12-17T00:36:13Z")
Yeh, recently returned from a 3-year break. Reading patch notes is hard now that they come out every 2 weeks. Thanks for the info, guess we’ll have to ship up! ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/6 "2019-12-17T02:42:02Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-understand-ccps-desire-to-end-afk-mining-but-come-on/206735/7 "2020-03-16T02:42:07Z")
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