# I used to look forward to updates. Now i dread them **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 12, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415 "2021-11-12T21:13:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/21 "2021-11-13T20:43:07Z")
> [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](#): > > I always advocated for a full server restart to be honest. People bawked at this solution but I could see a thousand cuts ‘‘poverty patching’’ losing just as many subs. A full server restart & mandatory $ sub might still be in the cards towards the end. Or Eve 2.0 which is just a server restart dressed up. I mean as long as you’re willing to pay me out what I’ve spent over the years playing EVE, I’ll restart 😃 Server restart isn’t the answer. As someone who only plays 1 char and subs 1 account, a lot of these updates don’t really bother me. It boggles me when people look at EVE like a job and grind in game to literally pay to keep playing the game. The answer might be to just sub one account. Yes, you can’t do as much. You make less ISK. You die more. But also, its a lot more fun. It forces you to accept the risks of solo or to fleet up with others. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/22 "2021-11-13T20:45:32Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > The answer might be to just sub one account. Yes, you can’t do as much. You make less ISK. You die more. But also, its a lot more fun. It forces you to accept the risks of solo or to fleet up with others. You make less, but you need less. Heck you _need_ a pittance and its not like you are saving for a Rorq LOL THAT IS FUNNY JOKE I MAKE, DA? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/23 "2021-11-13T20:53:42Z")
Indeed. Actually when I first started EVE and I still feel this way, I wanted to be able to fly every sub cap ship but never spec into anything above that. And yes, this even applies to mining ships sadly 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/24 "2021-11-13T20:55:50Z")
I got to carrier, found it to be really tedious, and stopped after testing out two of them for some time. Wish I hadnt wasted that time. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/25 "2021-11-13T21:05:43Z")
I’m dreading the blops part but leaving that for last. I’m finishing up all the cruiser stuff before starting again on the BC lvl with command ships and such. Kinda sad you don’t see a lot of them anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Christened](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_christened/32/439994_2.png) [@Nico\_Christened](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Christened)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/26 "2021-11-13T21:46:44Z")
With good reason OP. Those who created the sandbox are gone and now decisions are coming from a crowd few–if anyone–trusts. ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/27 "2021-11-14T00:42:38Z")
yeah you sociopaths can have this game now. I’ve moved on to flying quadcopters and helicopters. Honestly, its much more fun and i don’t have to worry about some company removing chunks of my toys, or changing the controls on my remote. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/28 "2021-11-14T00:47:25Z")
Curious, but assuming you are being sincere, what makes her a sociopath? And what qualifies you to make this medical assessment? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/29 "2021-11-14T00:58:59Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Curious, but assuming you are being sincere, what makes her a sociopath? I think I can answer that one for you: She kills other players without their consent in an open-world, non-consensual PvP game. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/30 "2021-11-14T01:08:16Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I think I can answer that one for you: > > She kills other players without their consent in an open-world, non-consensual PvP game. I know but I wanted his crazy take on it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/31 "2021-11-14T01:10:25Z")
Trust me, you don’t. Dealing with these players on the forums is like working in a nuclear reactor, and you’re already at your yearly sievert limit. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/32 "2021-11-14T01:13:03Z")
Well people seem to think you and I are CCP’s favorites and rewarded for our work so I mean if they wanna sling like 20 mil SP and 15 bil ISK my way I wouldn’t say no… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/33 "2021-11-14T01:19:29Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Well people seem to think you and I are CCP’s favorites and rewarded for our work so They think that we’re favorites because we’re openly advocating for the mere existence of non-consensual PvP in this non-consensual PvP game, and not getting instantly banned for doing so. I don’t really care what they think. An eagle does not hunt for flies. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/34 "2021-11-14T01:27:06Z")
Hate when the update is just fixes. 😩 ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/35 "2021-11-14T01:27:41Z")
its just how gleeful she is with other people’s decades long hobby being destroyed, and the projection. “its time to stop catering to crybaby whiny players” I’ve watched my game be destroyed by these new players, who come here, whine and cry about cloaks and nullsec wealth etc etc. Demanding CCP nerf and take things away from those who they are jealous of. These same new players are basking with glee, as the corporate suits who were hired to replace the developers, do as they asked And now, when old players complain “hey, this decades long game that i loved is being destroyed” i just hear “hahaha gtfo”. Okay. You can have it. Its yours. You won it. Enjoy it. I hope it becomes the game you dreamed of. ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/36 "2021-11-14T01:30:38Z")
i live in nullsec and all i do is kill people who dont want to be killed. I’ve never had problems with code because i’m not trashy enough to remain in highsec. I’m just tired of the Candy Crush generation turning good sugar into corn syrup. I don’t want your soy neither. The cow goes on the BBQ. If you’re concerned with the cow farts, you’re free to huff them. You’ve begged the devs to remove the cows. There is nothing left to BBQ. I will now find a new restaurant and consume animal meat elsewhere. good day. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/37 "2021-11-14T01:39:59Z")
> [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > its just how gleeful she is with other people’s decades long hobby being destroyed, and the projection. > > “its time to stop catering to crybaby whiny players” > > I’ve watched my game be destroyed by these new players, who come here, whine and cry about cloaks and nullsec wealth etc etc. Demanding CCP nerf and take things away from those who they are jealous of. > > These same new players are basking with glee, as the corporate suits who were hired to replace the developers, do as they asked > > And now, when old players complain “hey, this decades long game that i loved is being destroyed” > i just hear “hahaha gtfo”. > > Okay. You can have it. Its yours. You won it. Enjoy it. I hope it becomes the game you dreamed of. The irony. > [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > i live in nullsec and all i do is kill people who dont want to be killed. I’ve never had problems with code because i’m not trashy enough to remain in highsec. > > I’m just tired of the Candy Crush generation turning good sugar into corn syrup. I don’t want your soy neither. The cow goes on the BBQ. If you’re concerned with the cow farts, you’re free to huff them. > > You’ve begged the devs to remove the cows. There is nothing left to BBQ. I will now find a new restaurant and consume animal meat elsewhere. good day. Ahh so you’re a krab. Got it. None of that proves she is a sociopath. Either adapt or die. Its pretty simple. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/38 "2021-11-14T01:40:10Z")
> [@Terminal\_Insanity](#): > > i live in nullsec and all i do is kill people who dont want to be killed. I’ve never had problems with code because i’m not trashy enough to remain in highsec. Why are you complaining about the “sociopaths” then? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/39 "2021-11-14T01:43:36Z")
Something about gooey cows and how new players have changed the game by crying, but Null folk are good people who’d never bend CCP’s ear. Im not sure, it was unclear. ---
**Author:** ![Terminal\_Insanity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terminal_insanity/32/383404_2.png) [@Terminal\_Insanity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terminal_Insanity)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-used-to-look-forward-to-updates-now-i-dread-them/336415/40 "2021-11-14T01:47:19Z")
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