# I warned you guys. But you didn't listen

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**Created:** [October 28, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080 "2024-10-28T10:05:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/1 "2024-10-28T10:05:28Z")

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I warned you guys ~half year ago about the conseuqences of Equinox

> [@Equinox will finally kill small groups](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/equinox-will-finally-kill-small-groups/448683):
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> I watched devstream today. And what to say… Powerblocks will get even more power and small/midsize groups become a poor squotters begging for food and shelter. While we already have space cut in half between PanFam and Imperium. This new thing will enforce a major claim restructuring. If any current small groups claim over valueable space - they will be pushed out for PB’s good. Metenox is absolute economic weapon for PB dominance. They put it on EVERY moon and just defend them if necessary. …

But you didn’t listen.

Now poweblocks doing exactly what i predicted - taking over moons and space with metenox, cut everyone else out of income and resources. Small groups cant resist and cant do anything to prevent it just because lack of power and no free space to go. Leading to their disbanding.

I’m 100% sure people confirm that thier small group is struggle right now or already kicked of from their place or even disbanded just because some BIG BOI neighbor comes for their moons.

Do you remember what happened with Serenity?  
You have about few years till it here on Tranq.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/2 "2024-10-28T11:18:11Z")

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Which small groups have been killed by Equinox?

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**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/4 "2024-10-28T12:01:26Z")

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Cartel in Curse (Apocalypse Now, Альянс Out of the Blue and small allie)

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/5 "2024-10-28T12:07:58Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> warned you guys ~half year ago about the conseuqences of Equinox

I wasnt worned, I wasnt play this game 6mo ago.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> But you didn’t listen.

I could not hear.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Now poweblocks doing exactly what i predicted - taking over moons and space with metenox, cut everyone else out of income and resources. Small groups cant resist and cant do anything to prevent it just because lack of power and no free space to go. Leading to their disbanding

Good. If someone cannot stand thier ground they should retreat or flee. This game cutthraot, not for feint of heart. Take or be taken.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> I’m 100% sure people confirm that thier small group is struggle right now or already kicked of from their place or even disbanded just because some BIG BOI neighbor comes for their moons

Good. If cant defend their things is normal someone come take it. Fight or flight. Stand ground or go home.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Do you remember what happened with Serenity?

What is Serenity, another weak corporation?

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> You have about few years till it here on Tranq.

Is that a threat?

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/6 "2024-10-28T12:19:34Z")

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> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#):
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> Is that a threat?

No, it’s a server wipe.

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**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/7 "2024-10-28T12:23:12Z")

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Simply put. The big blocks need to die out. They are effectively controlling CCP and the decisions made. Sure CCP “makes the rules” but if it’s going to effect the big blocks in a negative way that means it’s going to hurt CCP wallet in the long run. That many active omega accounts means they tend to get what they want. Sure it’s not fair to the rest of the player base but at the end of the day, what keeps the lights on and the server running? That’s right the hamsters running in those wheels in the basement. Now get back to work and stop complaining.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/8 "2024-10-28T12:32:20Z")

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I dont have any reason to play if i cant get what i want because poweblocks already take that.  
That’s exactly what happened on Serenity and it happening right now on Tranq.  
People just loose the matter of playing it because there is nothing more to achive and compete.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/9 "2024-10-28T12:57:49Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> I dont have any reason to play if i cant get what i want because poweblocks already take that.

Well ‘you’ are in State War Academy and always have been so are not posting on any ‘small group’ corp that’s actually affected by any of what you claim. As Gerard Amatin asked…which small groups have been affected ?

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/10 "2024-10-28T13:25:43Z")

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I think this caused Gooseswam to ruffle feathers and spread its wings!

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**Author:** ![AnatanD\_Airin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anatand_airin/32/383830_2.png) [@AnatanD\_Airin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnatanD_Airin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/11 "2024-10-28T13:38:50Z")

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The answer to his question is written in 2 languages. Or do you only watch what you need?

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**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/12 "2024-10-28T13:45:29Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Now poweblocks doing exactly what i predicted - taking over moons and space with metenox, cut everyone else out of income and resources

If you can’t defend what you have you shouldn’t have it.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Small groups cant resist and cant do anything to prevent it just because lack of power and no free space to go. Leading to their disbanding

If they’re not strong enough to withstand the onslaught they should by all means disband or band together with other groups.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> I’m 100% sure people confirm that thier small group is struggle right now or already kicked of from their place or even disbanded just because some BIG BOI neighbor comes for their moons

That’s the way it is in New Eden. Fight for it, win or lose it.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Do you remember what happened with Serenity?  
> You have about few years till it here on Tranq.

Okay, Mr. Chicken Little.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/13 "2024-10-28T13:52:05Z")

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Sorry, I tend to ignore posts in languages I don’t speak.

You did mention one name but I had never heard of it and cannot check if it was indeed Equinox that killed it, or that it was just the regular cycle of life and death that happened to coincide with Equinox.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/14 "2024-10-28T14:11:26Z")

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> [@Analoreke\_Brunette](#):
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> If they’re not strong enough to withstand the onslaught they should by all means disband or band together with other groups.

Previously unwanted (because you cant just mine everything manually) space where small groups could potentially have their homes now wanted by blocks cuz it’s easy passive income from metenoxes.

Obviously none of small group or newcomers can stand against it.

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**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/15 "2024-10-28T14:18:06Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Obviously none of small group or newcomers can stand against it

I understand. So the small groups need to band together until they’re big enough to kick the big groups’ butt.  
Otherwise they will just have to get into Ventures and mine Veldspar in Highsec.

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**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/16 "2024-10-28T14:22:13Z")

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Good luck with that. A lot of overinflated egos and blind pride in those small groups. They refuse to join each other because they wanna do it themselves (understandably). They all offer to let the other join but say no you should join us instead of us joining you. Its this dead end back and forth.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/17 "2024-10-28T14:23:34Z")

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> [@Analoreke\_Brunette](#):
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> Otherwise they will just have to get into Ventures and mine Veldspar in Highsec.

That’s the future of all small groups.  
Other choice - be CTA slaves for blocks.

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**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/18 "2024-10-28T14:31:17Z")

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> [@RGC\_Godfather](#):
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> They all offer to let the other join but say no you should join us instead of us joining you. Its this dead end back and forth

Then they are won over not because they are weak but because they are proud and stupid. No tears shed for them.

> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> That’s the future of all small groups.  
> Other choice - be CTA slaves for blocks

Or go solo and be a pain in the big groups’ butt.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/19 "2024-10-28T14:32:37Z")

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> [@Analoreke\_Brunette](#):
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> Or go solo and be a pain in the big groups’ butt.

Nice joke man 🤣

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**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/20 "2024-10-28T14:34:58Z")

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> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#):
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> Nice joke man 🤣

Well what else am I going to tell you? If the small groups can’t figure it out I’m not going to figure it out for them 🤷

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**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-warned-you-guys-but-you-didnt-listen/466080/21 "2024-10-28T16:03:19Z")

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I sometimes come back to commemorate the death of my corporation at the hands of that “and thou shalt mine moons by hand” update. When was that, ten years ago by now? Anyway, the sole advice I can give you is to simply quit. I’ve won Eve for about ten years now and I never looked back.

Okay okay, I admit I have logged in this year, and confirmed that I ran out of PLEX. I have ceased my annual attempts at getting back into the game. I’m a millennial and I’m done with shifting goal posts, societal or otherwise.

I now play spaceship games with game boards, miniatures and dice, in real life. I recommend giving that a try.

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