# Idea: Battlecruiser/Battleship Mining Barge/Exhumer **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Tags:** industrial, pve, pvp\ **Created:** [January 12, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203 "2020-01-12T01:26:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/21 "2020-01-20T22:44:35Z")
> [@Stalter\_Arjar](#): > > I would nerf the Orca yield, especially ice. Right, nerf it to zero. Rorqs, Orcas and Porpoises should only be support ships. ---
**Author:** ![Stalter\_Arjar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalter_arjar/32/411988_2.png) [@Stalter\_Arjar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalter_Arjar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/22 "2020-01-21T09:44:24Z")
Not what I meant tbh. Porpoise yield is about right I’d say. Orca yield is too high, I would say at max it should pull same as a T1 fitted Procurer so that it is barely viable as a solo platform, to compensate I would up the boost capability. As for the Rorq, don’t know, I’ve never flown one but I have been in Rorq fleets which was cool, if u are prepared to invest in one and risk it in low/null then fair play to u. I was mostly thinking about hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/23 "2020-01-21T11:39:32Z")
> [@Stalter\_Arjar](#): > > I would nerf the Orca yield, especially ice. just make the ice drones take 5 times less bandwidth, have 5 times more laser duration. of course replace all stacks of ice drones with a stack of 5 times that number, and make the ice drones BP create 5 drones instead of one. This will make people able to compete with orcas, by simply out-mining their ice. ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/24 "2020-01-23T01:46:27Z")
Got to stir things up, we got to love how only there is only problems no solutions to problems in every forum. How old is my character? its my youngest actualy, tho not what i’d call new, hahaha^^ ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/25 "2020-01-23T02:20:45Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > they don’t want more ship. Who are they? > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > “mining barge”, but they already exist. Where did i say its another same size Mining barge? Do you even read? > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > making sized-version is worse. Literly the whole game is a sized-version. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Size matter in combat because bigger means slower, and easier to hit, and harder to shoot something, keeping the different sizes in balance. So you directly saying Only Yeiald matters & Fitting, Speed, Enemy, Fleet, Bonuses, any other players, Size, Sig radius, nothing else then Yield don’t even play in to it? Im sorry, but your tougth patern is strikingly close to alot of my F1 monkeys would say mindlesly. ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/26 "2020-01-23T02:30:38Z")
You do realize your so called > [@FarosWarrior](#): > > semi-decent nullsec alliance Is not “semi” but top tier or have top tier defence contract or are blue donuts with top tier Alliances. …[https://evewho.com/alli/](https://evewho.com/alli/) ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/27 "2020-01-23T02:51:48Z")
I excuse myself if i seem overly protective protective of my ideas. The thing is i want to see solutions posted along with problems others think of. ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/28 "2020-01-23T02:56:15Z")
Thank you good note to keep in mind. Tho it said R64 = the Moon. Then had “(Expencive ore)” seperated with () from R64. I typed it to help both new and old players. Yes i should edit to make it more exakt, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/29 "2020-01-23T03:09:15Z")
> [@CowRocket\_Void](#): > > Right, nerf it to zero. Rorqs, Orcas and Porpoises should only be support ships. TBH i like this idea. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/30 "2020-01-23T13:27:04Z")
> [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > Who are they? your multi-personality disorders. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > Where did i say its another same size Mining barge? Do you even read? Where did I say you said it ? Learn to read. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > Literly the whole game is a sized-version. Only for combat ships. Which is literally what I said after that. You are free to discuss my opinion, once you make the effort to try to understand it. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > So you directly saying Only Yeiald matters & Fitting, Speed, Enemy, Fleet, Bonuses, any other players, Size, Sig radius, nothing else then Yield don’t even play in to it? Where did I say that ? Learn to read. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > The thing is i want to see solutions posted along with problems others think of. If there is no solution, then there is no problem. ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/31 "2020-02-04T02:34:34Z")
> [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > > Who are they? > > your multi-personality disorders. Nice, so you can only be rude as a response. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > > Where did i say its another same size Mining barge? Do you even read? > > Where did I say you said it ? Learn to read. Right there. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > “mining barge”, but they already exist. I do read & i do listen to what you have to say. No other in game ship size is called mining barge, hence why i said battleship sized mining barge. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > > Literally the whole game is a sized-version. > > Only for combat ships. Which is literally what I said after that. You are free to discuss my opinion, once you make the effort to try to understand it. directly counters > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > > Only Yeiald matters & Fitting, Speed, Enemy, Fleet, Bonuses, any other players, Size, Sig radius, nothing else then Yield don’t even play in to it? > > Where did I say that ? Learn to read. It is implied when you say: > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > > Literly the whole game is a sized-version. > > Only for combat ships. And what your implying is directly. Transports & its hold is not relative to size. Ore yeald is not relative to size. Citadel number of fitting slots & modules are not relative to size. You cannot have your cake and eat it sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/32 "2020-02-04T08:05:40Z")
> [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > Nice, so you can only be rude as a response. sorry to hear that truth hurts you. > [@Lexx\_Devi](#): > > You cannot have your cake and eat it sadly. Your post make no sense at all. Literally it’s only words smashed together. ---
**Author:** ![Lexx\_Devi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexx_devi/32/272139_2.png) [@Lexx\_Devi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexx_Devi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/33 "2020-02-28T03:42:26Z")
Yeah i see you have a history of your both name calling & not able of reading/understanding. Yap away. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/34 "2020-02-28T09:11:51Z")
Maybe add Excavators instead? Ships that land on/connect to asteroid and mine from surface. Give them something like 90% reduction to the optimal range of miners. That would be something new-ish, not just simple boring scaling up. ---
**Author:** ![Onions\_and\_Peppers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onions_and_peppers/32/332621_2.png) [@Onions\_and\_Peppers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onions_and_Peppers)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/35 "2020-03-01T21:33:54Z")
I like the idea of the black ops version. Lately I have been enjoying several different forms of covert ops gameplay including both industrial and violent. One thing I do see is that, last I looked anyway, which I admit has not been for a while since I find smaller ships more fun anyway, I seem to recall black ops battle ships being a little less tanky. Perhaps switch the mid slots on the two ships you have proposed? ---
**Author:** ![Amos\_Tyrell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amos_tyrell/32/190753_2.png) [@Amos\_Tyrell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amos_Tyrell)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/36 "2020-03-07T11:29:17Z")
Hi. So in my opinion I wouldn’t introduce a new ship. Hulk is THE ship you would want, you just cannot use it effectively besides fleet ops and some missions. Not with those Triglavians and suicide gankers around. I would rather detach the tech I Covetor and Tech 2 hulk from the mining barge line, and move it to an entire new class called ‘heavy mining barge’. As a new heavier class, I would give the hulk a large shield of around 10k-13k, an amount of 45k ore hold and 150 m3 drone bay and 50mbit bandwidth and 30% less stats for the covetor. With a layout of 2 high/4med/3low for the covetor and 2high/5med/4low for the hulk. i would set the powergrid around 300-400 to be able to utilize 2-3 shield extender, or 1-2 shield extender and an afterburner/mwd There. You have a ship line, with a good defense, good offense, and high solo mining yield. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/37 "2020-03-07T13:35:20Z")
> [@Amos\_Tyrell](#): > > I would rather detach the tech I Covetor and Tech 2 hulk from the mining barge line, and move it to an entire new class called ‘heavy mining barge’. Isn’t it more logical to use Procurers and Skiffs as heavy mining barges? ---
**Author:** ![Amos\_Tyrell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amos_tyrell/32/190753_2.png) [@Amos\_Tyrell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amos_Tyrell)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/38 "2020-03-07T15:50:45Z")
In my mind no. Procurers and Skiffs should be the baseline for mining barges. First of cosmetics. From the three barges Hulk is the largest, it makes sense to re classify it. Secondly there is a gap between skiff and orca in yield, tank and cargo space. That in between space should be filled with the covetor and hulk, which offers a sizeable yield upgrade, but at the moment and current climate lacks ore cargo space and most importantly tank. So in my mind when I wanna fill that gap, I wanna put Hulk in that class, and I wanna give it proportional tank and cargo to protect itself from at least a small trig squad, and be able to do level 4 mining missions. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/39 "2020-03-18T20:02:54Z")
I had a long response thought out, but it all boils down to: No. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/idea-battlecruiser-battleship-mining-barge-exhumer/211203/40 "2020-06-16T20:03:05Z")
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