# If EVE was invaded by the Imperium of Man **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [July 8, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473 "2019-07-08T21:26:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kato\_Szafarchek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kato_szafarchek/32/431271_2.png) [@Kato\_Szafarchek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kato_Szafarchek)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/1 "2019-07-08T21:26:59Z")
No idea where this should be posted. If the EVE Gate was to stabilize and open up, and the Imperium of Man were to pour out of the gate into the EVE galaxy, do the capsuleers stand any chance of stopping or even stemming the tide of an Imperial crusade? If not, how long would the great empires of EVE last before being destroyed, forced into compliance, or fleeting to the wormholes? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/2 "2019-07-08T21:29:23Z")
The Imperium of Man would be unable to win a single battle in a universe where logistics, attrition, freedom of thought, technological development and sex exist. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/3 "2019-07-08T21:41:39Z")
Also we have the Amarr. Better in Every way. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/4 "2019-07-08T21:44:42Z")
I always thought it was interesting that most everyone assumes that the Earth in Eve lore could never have a dark age or technical regression. Having such an occurrence could be a great way to open up the gate. Plenty of opportunity for ancient tech exploration. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/5 "2019-07-08T21:57:30Z")
As both an Amarr loyalist and an Imperium of Man loyalist such a crossover might just break me mentally. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/6 "2019-07-08T21:58:18Z")
If any one has seen the Empyrean age trailer they have seen the weapons we would go up against. I would really like to to an entire capital fleet get Insta blapped by 1 BS. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/7 "2019-07-08T22:32:19Z")
For future reference, this topic fits better in the [Lore discussion](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/fiction-portal/eve-lore-discussion) sub-forum. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/8 "2019-07-08T22:35:25Z")
Imperial battleships are nearly the size of titans. Imperial battlecruisers carry ‘dooms day’ like weapons. And then there are the Blackstone Fortresses… ![size_comparison___science_fiction_spaceships_by_dirkloechel_d6lfgdf%20(1)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/b/bbc86134c2ed2a17442fccffb0ddbd8bed0f8c01.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/9 "2019-07-08T23:08:07Z")
> [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](#): > > I always thought it was interesting that most everyone assumes that the Earth in Eve lore could never have a dark age or technical regression. > > Having such an occurrence could be a great way to open up the gate. Plenty of opportunity for ancient tech exploration. The more we digitize information and turn our backs on hard copy, the more likely this becomes. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/10 "2019-07-08T23:48:31Z")
They also get lost in the warp frequently. ---
**Author:** ![Lillith\_Sakata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lillith_sakata/32/255593_2.png) [@Lillith\_Sakata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lillith_Sakata)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/11 "2019-07-09T02:41:38Z")
I think they’d be hosed. Capsuleers are immortal, and can just respawn, learning more and more each death and coming back with that knowledge. Superhumans are great and all, and the warhammer universe does have those mostly dead dudes that get turned into mechs… so _maybe_ they have peeps that can act similarly to capsuleers and control a ship with their mind. But they’re not immortal. Not sure if any of the magical type stuff might be able to trump capsuleer tech or not, though. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/12 "2019-07-09T05:44:22Z")
> [@Lillith\_Sakata](#): > > I think they’d be hosed. Capsuleers are immortal Well, if you assume they have continued their tech advance without any decline, they probably discovered their own “wet grave” many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![marVLs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvls/32/478691_2.png) [@marVLs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/marVLs)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/13 "2019-07-09T08:31:43Z")
Im hoping some day EVE gate will be open again, players would be able to visit solar system and nerby stars but we will encounter there nothing but salvage, wrecks etc. there won’t be humans there anymore, only ancient tech (for new playable ship race) and we can only guess if they ware exterminated or needed to leave our ancient home ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/14 "2019-07-09T08:41:44Z")
Ib4 gate gone, no gate for Neddy, the gate is waving bye-bye “Bye Neddy, bye-bye” etc ---
**Author:** ![Tassa\_Kerenskie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tassa_kerenskie/32/262333_2.png) [@Tassa\_Kerenskie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tassa_Kerenskie)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/15 "2019-07-09T08:58:46Z")
> [@Lillith\_Sakata](#): > > I think they’d be hosed. Capsuleers are immortal, and can just respawn, learning more and more each death and coming back with that knowledge. That much is true. But only as long as there is a cloning facility and a ready clone around. Readying a clone takes times and resources. And sooner or later the capsuleers will run out of both. The Imperium, while rigid in their doctrines and beliefs, are not stupid. They will learn about the cloning vats and how the caps use them. Then they will become primary targets. And once they are destroyed the “immortality” of the caps is done for. Mind you, the Imperium is vast and they have Billions and Billions of guardsmen and no qualms to throw them in harms way. If it comes to attrition they have the greater numbers and a squad of Space Marines for each and every cloning vat. ---
**Author:** ![Kalpel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalpel/32/186678_2.png) [@Kalpel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalpel)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/16 "2019-07-09T09:11:55Z")
> [@Kato\_Szafarchek](#): > > If the EVE Gate was to stabilize and open up, and the Imperium of Man were to pour out of the gate into the EVE galaxy, do the capsuleers stand any chance of stopping or even stemming the tide of an Imperial crusade? If not, how long would the great empires of EVE last before being destroyed, forced into compliance, or fleeting to the wormholes? This would be impossible because I closed “The EVE Gate” myself! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/17 "2019-07-09T09:26:36Z")
Marines are only 25% stronger than an average man. And theres only a million marines, further if they sent any more than a token force through, then that part of the Imperium would fall as it would be undefended. The Imperium’s fleet is also not capable of waging war at the speed at which capsuleers think. They load torpedoes by _hand_ ffs ---
**Author:** ![Arline\_Kley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arline_kley/32/466734_2.png) [@Arline\_Kley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arline_Kley)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/18 "2019-07-09T11:11:47Z")
The Imperium of Man would win hands down. It doesnt matter that we have FTL ships which dont need to go near a zone of “should not be”. It doesn’t matter that we throw gigaton munitions around like toffee. They have literally unnummbered military forces. They have munitions that the EVE realm has no understanding of. Sure we might win at the beginning, but in the long run what the Emperor wants, He on Earth will get. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/19 "2019-07-09T11:16:42Z")
They literally dont. The Imperium teeters because its already straining. How many regiments of guard do you send? What planets do you allow to fall to cone to this backwater? Fenris? Cadia? Mars? How many guard will immeadiately desert to go to a Gallante pleasure station? How many will even achieve planet fall when their archaic steampunk ships cannot outmaneuver a Dreadnought? And they cannot even warp anywhere; the light of the Astronomicon doesnt reach New Eden; it doesnt even reach all of their home galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Kato\_Szafarchek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kato_szafarchek/32/431271_2.png) [@Kato\_Szafarchek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kato_Szafarchek)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473/20 "2019-07-09T11:35:08Z")
Alright, thanks. Guess it’s up to a mod if it needs to be moved over. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-eve-was-invaded-by-the-imperium-of-man/173473.md?page=2)