# If It Happens to Just One New Player, Is It Worth Allowing?

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**Created:** [June 21, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-it-happens-to-just-one-new-player-is-it-worth-allowing/490805 "2025-06-21T13:27:53Z")\
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All of this is true:

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We all know what goes on.

A new player undocks for the first time, mining in highsec. No tank, no idea, no warning.

They get ganked.  
Then they get an email.  
Then they get an invite to a private channel.  
Then the real fun begins. Mocked. Gaslit. Told they “deserved it.”  
Sometimes they’re baited into rage just so someone can screenshot it and post it for laughs.

Defenders of this behavior will say:

- “It’s the sandbox.”
- “They should’ve known better.”
- “It’s their fault for not fitting a tank.”
- “It’s just one person.”

But that one person is a human being. Maybe they just downloaded the game, or maybe they actually believed EVE was something different.

So here’s the real question:

**If this happened to just one new player, just one, would it be worth allowing?**

If your answer is yes, then let’s stop pretending this is about gameplay. This is about gatekeeping and humiliation dressed up as “emergent content.”

CCP’s EULA says:

“You may not harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other users.”  
_(EULA Section 6B)_

If ganking a newbro is legal, fine.  
But luring them into a chat just to mock them?  
That’s not gameplay. That’s griefing.

Even if it happens to just one person, that’s one player lost. Maybe forever. And if EVE really is bleeding new players the way the retention numbers suggest, we can’t afford to keep writing this off as content.

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