# If PvE was made to be more fun then **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, pvp\ **Created:** [May 11, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153 "2020-05-11T01:54:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/1 "2020-05-11T01:54:24Z")
If PvE where to be made fun in this game then… More people would play EVE, It seems PvE players make up the bulk of the player base, More PvP players will join, as there are more PvE players to kill, It’s like owning a bar / pub or nightclub, If you can pack the place with girls, the guys will show up whether you want them to or not. IMO it’s time for THE VERY FIRST update/overhaul to missions in 17 years ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/2 "2020-05-11T02:29:31Z")
Can you please provide highly specific examples of things you feel are wrong with PVE and specific improvements you have in mind? ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/3 "2020-05-11T02:32:54Z")
Nope, I think I said it all in my OP. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/4 "2020-05-11T02:56:07Z")
If you REALLY want PvE then maybe Eve isn’t the game for you…or them… ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/5 "2020-05-11T03:00:02Z")
WOW!!! ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/6 "2020-05-11T03:02:26Z")
Care to expand on that? ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/7 "2020-05-11T03:07:53Z")
you basically just told me to quit EVE… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/8 "2020-05-11T03:11:32Z")
Well if you want a game focused on fighting AI then the ‘X’ series is the best out there(IMO)…If quitting Eve for a game you would enjoy more would make you happier then why would I suggest otherwise? EVE is the best game around IMO but it’s not for everyone…like anything else… ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/9 "2020-05-11T03:14:43Z")
> [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > Nope, I think I said it all in my OP. No you didn’t. You said “make it fun”, which is vague at best and often used by PvE players to mean “make it pay more ISK and remove all PvP threats”. If you have some interesting ideas for _how_ to make PvE more fun then please present them, but so far you’ve said nothing of value. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/10 "2020-05-11T03:24:11Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > No you didn’t. You said “make it fun”, which is vague at best and often used by PvE players to mean “make it pay more ISK and remove all PvP threats”. If you have some interesting ideas for _how_ to make PvE more fun then please present them, but so far you’ve said nothing of value. your words not mine… putting words in my mouth wont win you any “Arguments” of your own making. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/12 "2020-05-11T03:35:11Z")
basically By “Fun” i mean something players want to do… that’s all I mean, balance pve, pvp, etc can remain the same, just make it more engaging… more FUN! ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/13 "2020-05-11T03:41:28Z")
> [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > something players want to do What if all that the player wants to do is make ISK with the least amount of effort possible because they see PvE as a means to an end goal of, say, being able to purchase a Titan? ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/14 "2020-05-11T03:42:22Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > No you didn’t. You said “make it fun”, which is vague at best and often used by PvE players to mean “make it pay more ISK and remove all PvP threats”. If you have some interesting ideas for _how_ to make PvE more fun then please present them, but so far you’ve said nothing of value. Still how is telling players to quit EVE a good thing, just because I’d like a PVE update? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/15 "2020-05-11T03:43:50Z")
> [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > It seems PvE players make up the bulk of the player base > [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > i mean something players want to do You’re kinda contradicting yourself here a bit…if you think the majority of players are PvE than that kinda would mean that it something many enjoy…if they didn’t then they wouldn’t be the majority, right? PvE in EVE is a means, not an ends… ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/16 "2020-05-11T03:45:23Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > You’re kinda contradicting yourself here a bit…if you think the majority of players are PvE than that kinda would mean that it something many enjoy…if they didn’t then they wouldn’t be the majority, right? > > PvE in EVE is a means, not an ends… Please tell me how I’m contradicting myself? Please be Specific. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/17 "2020-05-11T03:47:46Z")
> [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > your words not mine… putting words in my mouth wont win you any “Arguments” of your own making. So, you’re just here to make vague statements about “fun” and whine about being criticized. Got it. > Still how is telling players to quit EVE a good thing, just because I’d like a PVE update? Because not everyone belongs in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/18 "2020-05-11T03:55:07Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > So, you’re just here to make vague statements about “fun” and whine about being criticized. Got it. And your just here to tell people to quit EVE. there was no Whining… that’s your perspective not mine. > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Because not everyone belongs in EVE. CCP has a dim view of players telling other players to QUIT EVE! This might be a good time to re-read the EULA. Please read the OP again, it was a hopeful suggestion, not a complaint, not a spat nothing like that FULL F\*N STOP! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/19 "2020-05-11T04:06:49Z")
> [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > If PvE where to be made fun in this game then… > [@Vas\_Eldryn](#): > > pvp, etc I thought you just talking about pve? ---
**Author:** ![Vas\_Eldryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vas_eldryn/32/198395_2.png) [@Vas\_Eldryn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vas_Eldryn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/20 "2020-05-11T04:07:47Z")
Eve[quote=“MB\_ThePhotographer, post:19, topic:240153”] I thought you just talking about pve? [/quote] Everything in EVE is interconnected PVE effects PVP and vise versa. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153/21 "2020-05-11T04:08:39Z")
🍿 Edit; And you could at least learn how to quote correctly… [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-pve-was-made-to-be-more-fun-then/240153.md?page=2)