# If the number of players on the server is not higher by this time next year **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161 "2023-08-16T09:32:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Ping\_PangWang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ping_pangwang/32/393897_2.png) [@Ping\_PangWang](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ping_PangWang)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/548 "2023-12-18T19:37:16Z")
The csm serves its purpose, to keep null bears placated living on easy mode. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/549 "2023-12-18T19:40:07Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > and now there’s PK in my online video game? [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/2/7/e27dcd5ff18c5186f7e61fa7798f2e60fb55c20a.jpeg "Psychokinesis") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYUsxYw-j-8) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/550 "2023-12-18T19:50:32Z")
You are totally spot on. ---
**Author:** ![Imminent\_Conclusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imminent_conclusion/32/396965_2.png) [@Imminent\_Conclusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imminent_Conclusion)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/551 "2023-12-18T22:18:38Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Doing so makes about as much sense as making fun of _your_ inability to keep your Johnson up. Because whether we’re talking about conducting EVE high-sec wars in 2023, or making passion with your wife, we’re both fully aware and cognizant of the fact that neither can be properly accomplished with just one barely-functional member. So, personal attacks are ok now? You should be ashamed of yourself. @ISD_Traindriver @ISD_Drew ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/552 "2023-12-19T01:07:56Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You met a real PvP player something you never feel because youre to scared ! > [@Dracvlad](#): > > he was just better. wich wonder … its a PvP game and if its a 1vs1 then normaly 1 dies and the other is “better” in this situation … maybe you could known this fact if you would fight 😉 poh wait you ARE fighting ! [Mobile Small Warp Disruptor I | BigPoppaMonkeys | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99492099/) you are figting against these very strong bubbles … and youve won this fight ? couldnt imagine if youre friend werent there … maybe you would have lost ? > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > that neither side will change their view nor think the other is right so kinda obvious these back and forths are totally fruitless. sorry bro … but if one site repead all day long that ganking is a major problem and want us to think that 90% of HS is dangerous because if you undock then you got ganked .. sorry but these ppl are wrong ! and @Dracvlad is one of them ! but youre particular right ! no site will change their mind and “switches sites” ! > [@Dracvlad](#): > > is that really a solo PvP player with a 99% efficiency ratio? then let us show his zkb to see if its correct or not : ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/d/5/cd533d512e260dc7d1ff42d77cbe904d97acd119.jpeg) 98.7% efficiency - check ( its almost 99% and at 0.5 we can round up to the next number ) 52% solo - check ( i know there are 48 % “gangs” ) ok we have now checked this ! now lets see if it matters what he do and where did ho do ! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/2/7/427ceae41222f37d2dce54194bb511c501695c3b.png) 9/10 systems with his most kills are in HS ( if im not completly wrong ) does he shots ppl who can shoot back ? → sometimes does he is realy “solo” - i dont think so because of scout alts or something else does it matter ? - no ! why ? because PvP says only “PLAYER VS PLAYER” and did he kills ppl with this “status” ? yes he do ! so all at all → youre want him to discredit ( same like me ) because most of his kills happen in HS and in HS you dont find fight you almost “gank” ppl in a war or suspect baiting ! still its “real PvP” > [@Dracvlad](#): > > PVP is a broad range of competitive play, while PK is more nuanced, no its not … your “pk” is the same as “pvp” ! it said someone kills another player ! nothing else … > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > I take it to mean that according to some of the experts on here PvP can mean and involve, mining, market selling, production etc. > > PK on the other hand is a very much more targeted PvP with the sole aim of killing another player rather than the above. doesnt care … its both PvP ! and the ususale usage for PvP is to kill another dude … its EvE´s specific that mining, market transactions, production etc. are also PvP ! thats notthe case in every other game … > [@Imminent\_Conclusion](#): > > So, personal attacks are ok now? he cant do anything else if his “alternate facts” are got destroyed by others ! then he need to attack the person ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/553 "2023-12-19T04:41:53Z")
EVE has a **massive** learning curve (a learning cliff as some have said compared to a learning curve). I refeer to “soft” skills as well as “hard” skills. That is always going to be a big detractor to many potential players. I don’t want that to change either. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/554 "2023-12-19T05:51:22Z")
Yep. Its actually keeping some riff raff away actually. They like easier ganking in some other games’ much easier pvp setups. I see people ranting on ganks. Go play a few hours in wrath classic on a pvp server in hot spots like Stranglethorn valley. that place attracts no skill hacks like a massive super sized magnet. With no outs. If the level cap rogue wants you dead as a level 30 you will die. There is no warp out chance. No warp stabs. No concord. No local or dscan. You will not know in the area there are 20 horde and you are the 1 and only allinace there. Or vice verse. Eve is nice here. I travel low sec. I see 20 wt’s and little ole me. I don’t run sites in the system. They stay there since wow pvp mechanics are simple. Eve’s setup scares them. Throw in angular velocity, traversal, ammo selections affecting dps and tracking…and they go I just want to hit buttons to hit target. Hence fun meme’s about paladins, hunters, wrath death knights. Roll face on keyboard and own the damage meters! ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/555 "2023-12-19T08:16:52Z")
I think I said it above: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You met a real PvP player there and lost, he was just better. **He was a lot different to your normal prey, just saying…** Nothing much else to say about it… ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/556 "2023-12-19T08:17:36Z")
The moderators are biased. They tend to only remove comments and close threads that threaten established narratives. I’m surprised this one is still open. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/557 "2023-12-19T08:46:14Z")
You met a real PvP player there and lost, he was just better. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/558 "2023-12-19T20:57:34Z")
> You met a real PvP player there and lost, he was just better. Obviously that pilot didn’t meet Aiko out in space then! ---
**Author:** ![Imminent\_Conclusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imminent_conclusion/32/396965_2.png) [@Imminent\_Conclusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imminent_Conclusion)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/559 "2023-12-19T23:10:44Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > didn’t meet Aiko Not better or not a “he”? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/f/7/8f71280280a2cc2d352830415ad3a3ae903e6ad4.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/560 "2023-12-19T23:52:45Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Nothing much else to say about it… Normal prey is like Venture Miners right? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/562 "2023-12-20T11:53:53Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/b/58ba0a0b682bec9f0646fd2f0da720b24443144b.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Maltam\_Khurelem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maltam_khurelem/32/395719_2.png) [@Maltam\_Khurelem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maltam_Khurelem)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/563 "2023-12-20T12:51:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > PVP is a broad range of competitive play, while PK is more nuanced, Ah, yes, the great nuance of PK. A particular flavour of nuance only _you_ have knowledge of, I presume. I’ve noticed that more and more people in-game and on the forum invent their own words for things to better support their non-existent arguments. It’s neither clever nor interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/564 "2023-12-20T15:38:53Z")
And yet PK (Player Killer) is a definition that exists in regards to multiplayer games. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/565 "2023-12-20T16:50:01Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/7/9/579c7edfb5adcaa4c127426f36e2fabfb1ea6dff.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/566 "2023-12-20T20:23:22Z")
You seem upset enough to throw a meme my way, how droll, calm down ganker… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/567 "2023-12-20T20:31:45Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/a/1/4a1e4c9ee43def4a4c0424db7970b63d60881208.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/568 "2023-12-20T20:33:43Z")
That can be taken both ways, made me laugh however… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161.md?page=27) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161.md?page=29)