# If the number of players on the server is not higher by this time next year **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161 "2023-08-16T09:32:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Imminent\_Conclusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imminent_conclusion/32/396965_2.png) [@Imminent\_Conclusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imminent_Conclusion)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/610 "2023-12-26T01:35:19Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Autopilot could be set before undocking How far in the future is it? I have a robot vacuum that is scheduled to clean every day at a set time. Yet, I can set a course and have my ship dock? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/611 "2023-12-26T01:44:38Z")
> [@Imminent\_Conclusion](#): > > How far in the future is it? I have a robot vacuum that is scheduled to clean every day at a set time. Yet, I can set a course and have my ship dock? That’s all fine and all, though how does your vacuum know when to undock? ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/612 "2023-12-26T02:30:53Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Carebears simply don’t understand that the labels they assign to the players who harvest them are actually viewed as badges of honor. Calling someone who destroys other players a “griefer” or a “sociopath” or a “PKer” doesn’t make them slick into the shadows in shame and regret at what they’ve done; it’s basically just another trophy they add to the mantle. > > Kind of similar to how they’d place bounties on us, thinking that it would be sweet revenge for our transgressions. They couldn’t understand (or refused to even _try_) that it was a source of pride for us. Man, that was a really good game mechanic. I wish they’d bring it back. At least the bounties would incentivize people to hunt gankers 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/613 "2023-12-26T03:44:22Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > What’s likely happening here is that either CCP is cherry-picking characters for their statistics, or are including all PvP activity and not just the “kill” side in their statistics (which would come closer to 50%). Which is fine imo. Trying not to die…is also pvp. the hunter wants the kill. the hunted does not want to be killed. Let’s see if the hunted knows how to avoid that really good. One night a crew really wanted us dead. I made it out. celestial bounce 1, they tailed me. bounce 2…didn’t shake them again. Bounce 3…cool I lost my new friends. that started as a call for help the blue said wave off since dropped fast. I cleared the landing since inbound to evade capture. Solo against solid tackle and 2 ENI is beyond my skills. Even a hauler low sec shortcut is pvp. Every gate can be an adventure. also some pvp stuff is not logged but there. Logi’s don’t log data. They are still vital to pvp. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/615 "2023-12-26T06:43:44Z")
This is what we want to do, hunt glunkers and not turn criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/616 "2023-12-26T07:47:08Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > when to undock? When it’s time to explode is the time to hit the undock button. 😏 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/617 "2023-12-26T08:21:10Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > When it’s time to explode is the time to hit the undock button. 😏 😊 Expode when clicking undock is only a myth, _(new suggestion_ small % that ship expodes on undocking) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/618 "2023-12-26T08:45:00Z")
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**Author:** ![Imminent\_Conclusion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imminent_conclusion/32/396965_2.png) [@Imminent\_Conclusion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imminent_Conclusion)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/619 "2023-12-26T14:01:27Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > when to undock? I said: > is scheduled to clean every day at a set time I set the schedule months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/620 "2023-12-28T22:48:52Z")
> [@Imminent\_Conclusion](#): > > I set the schedule months ago. Sounds to me like some High-tech Bot-aspirant Vacuum you have. ---
**Author:** ![5ID\_5N0T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/5id_5n0t/32/398779_2.png) [@5ID\_5N0T](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/5ID_5N0T)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/621 "2023-12-29T21:13:54Z")
25 mulitiboxed bombers controlled by one person and this right here is the real issue it is also sad how they allow it although it does artificially inflate the online numbers that is why they love it and allow it sad really ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/622 "2023-12-30T08:36:24Z")
CCP also said years ago that they were clamping down on this behaviour and banned third party apps that let players control this amount of accounts at the same time. In fact lot’s of players allegedly did get a ban for it. I’m not saying that this player is cheating, but controlling so many accounts online at the same time just wouldn’t be possible for someone in normal play. Plus with bombers you really want them all firing at the same time which can’t happen when you have to manually switch to each account and press fire. But as you point out, banning so many accounts hits their bottom line and metrics. ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/623 "2023-12-30T10:17:15Z")
CCP is probably just going to blame the next recession / depression for the decline in players and their inevitable declaration of bankruptcy. But other game companies will survive because they know what they are doing. It is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/624 "2023-12-30T10:49:47Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > hunt glunkers and not turn criminal Why hunt glunkers when you could gank plonkers? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/625 "2023-12-30T11:00:09Z")
> [@5ID\_5N0T](#): > > 25 mulitiboxed bombers controlled by one person > > and this right here is the real issue it is also sad how they allow it although it does artificially inflate the online numbers that is why they love it and allow it > > sad really eve is a game wich allowes multiboxing so why should CCP restrict this part of the game ? they would kill yourself if they would … and btw → you could also fly 25 multiboxed bombers if you want ! if you cant its not a problem of this game … its a personal problem ! YOU dont want it 😉 > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > In fact lot’s of players allegedly did get a ban for it. and the ones who still exist dont have any illegal 3rd party tool ! or they will get banned shortly > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > I’m not saying that this player is cheating, but controlling so many accounts online at the same time just wouldn’t be possible for someone in normal play. where did you know this ? have you dont this before ? have you tried it ? do you now how easy it is to have XX accounts doing the same action with 1 sec time difference ? its not that hard … > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Plus with bombers you really want them all firing at the same time which can’t happen when you have to manually switch to each account and press fire. its not neccecary that they fire all at the same second ! they can easy got spread about a few seconds they dont lose anything ! > [@Rtsu](#): > > CCP is probably just going to blame the next recession / depression for the decline in players and their inevitable declaration of bankruptcy. But other game companies will survive because they know what they are doing. It is what it is. if they dont have enough player … why couldnt this the reason ? but this will need a large player drop if they decide to close the door ! and this is not happen 😉 player numbers are relative stable and this is ok ! eve has enough player ! the question is → to many alphas or not ? ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/626 "2023-12-30T11:24:35Z")
Some companies like blizzard don’t report sub numbers. They haven’t sonce WoD… They went to sales data. Which includes boosts, transfers, tokens (like isk). How many players we don’t know. How many players buying a crap ton of boosts and tokens for gold we don’t know either. This can mask lost subs. I’d be -1. And from that…crap tons of bots. Also last expac sold worse than even shadowlands. No one is paying 15 a month to play shadowlands eternally lol. Even masochists would be saying safe words there. Less dragon flight sales….is less subbed players. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/627 "2023-12-30T11:26:50Z")
> [@Hyrja](#): > > Some companies like blizzard don’t report sub numbers. and blizzard has more products then one … ! ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/628 "2023-12-30T11:29:43Z")
Yep. Ngl…I will go back when cata drops to try it out and say hi again. Preorder for the new expac to come? Hell no. I heard cataclysim. Has decent pvp. I’ll slide a few months of sub for that maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/629 "2023-12-30T12:22:34Z")
I just reinstalled WoW this week and had fun running a few solo dungeons, it’s a cheaper sub as well so I’ll see where I want to go in the new year because as things stand all I’m doing in EVE is logging on for the free gifts, checking my skill queue and logging out until the normal dailies return. It’s an expensive sub to get locked out of because you don’t really like the new content, ok not locked out of but some will understand what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/630 "2023-12-30T13:01:22Z")
If you dont like content in eve, thats ok. But just cause you dont like the new recipe for fried chicken doesnt mean you have to kick and scream and tell others who do like it. Just go to another game [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161.md?page=30) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161.md?page=32)