# If the number of players on the server is not higher by this time next year **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161 "2023-08-16T09:32:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 49
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/49 "2023-08-16T21:46:56Z")
> [@Pariah\_Omen](#): > > Nice write-up Destiny Cor, > I wish you had a voice with CCP that wasn’t diluted with forums trash. Im all about pvp but you mentioned that players want to log in and simply be able to play and do something fun. I have to agree here strongly. I used to be able to play from 2pm to 8pm due to work schedules. But during that time the gates are camped by the most powerful lowsec group to ever exist. Props. I used blops to get past the gate and jump freighters also. But thats all gone now because Lancers are sitting and waiting. GO somewhere else you say? Cant do that. CCP has killed everything else available and people like me have the option to move to nullsec and join PH or attempt to dock in the ONLY citadel in game outside of that which can compete business-wise. Does CCP even realize the damage and results of their stupid fkn decisions? I certainly do. How do I know? I run business worth multiple trillions in game. Its not a guess. All that revenue along with all my previous competitors is simply funneled to nullsec now. See this post: > [@Foundation Day Pack Update](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/foundation-day-pack-update/414663/75): > > This is fundamentally untrue. CCP is plenty competent. If you read game review aggregators like Steam (which has a statistically-relevant amount of reviews), player opinions on EVE that are negative can be broken down like this: New Players: The game has a monthly subscription, which is P2W garbage. EVE should be free, and $20 is too much to pay for a game in 20xx. The devs are greedy, and “Tencent” is just trying to milk whatever they can from idiots before shutting down the servers for g… About half of the negative reviews (and a portion of positive ones) are complaints that the game costs money. People want to have the game entirely for free. This is a consistent sentiment for many games, and not just EVE. In part this is justified with “things are too expensive these days, so at least games should be entirely free,” and in part “if I can just go and download torrents of my favorite games, why should I have to pay anything here?” If you cut away the price complainers from the data set (since it appears to be a “gamer constant” of sorts), you’re left with about 80% of negative reviews for EVE that specifically mention PvP (a.k.a. “griefing”) as the specific cause of dissatisfaction. Contemporary gamers aren’t _generally_ interested in competitive/heads-up gameplay. _Some_ are, which is why various FPS and fighting games still exist, but the proportion of supporters for such genres is a much lower percentage of the whole compared to, say, 20 years ago. _Most_ gamers today just want to accumulate in solitude. Do I feel that EVE should be changed? Absolutely not. I’m just trying to make an objective observation. If CCP wants to grow EVE, they need to immediately add a PvP toggle/flag, in _all_ areas of space, and conduct a concerted marketing push to let the world know that they did it. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161)._