# If the number of players on the server is not higher by this time next year

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**Created:** [August 16, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161 "2023-08-16T09:32:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-the-number-of-players-on-the-server-is-not-higher-by-this-time-next-year/416161/606 "2023-12-23T22:08:56Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> It’s comforting to be able to work out from the year end stats on my various chars that more than 50% of Eve players engage in PvP.

There’s no way that statistic is true. It just goes to show that CCP is [extremely bad at statistics](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/81). Possibly even intentionally, in order to present a certain unrealistic portrayal of their game.

If you look at some pics people are posting of their stats, characters that play for about 3 hours are in the 50th percentile. There’s no way that that’s the demarcation point for when the bulk of all characters (not players, _characters_) start aggressively engaging in PvP.

When analyzed a zKill snapshot maybe around two years ago, the figure I arrived at was something like 8% of the active _player_ base engages in aggressive PvP in _any_ capacity (most of those on the extreme low end of being part of like 1 total kill or something), and that was assuming 200,000 unique players.

What’s likely happening here is that either CCP is cherry-picking characters for their statistics, or are including all PvP activity and not just the “kill” side in their statistics (which would come closer to 50%).

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