# If you are a Omgea Clone, we should be able to transfer skill points to another Character on your account for free. This would be good for players who all ready paid for thoes skill points **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 22, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703 "2018-05-22T01:18:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Shuckstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shuckstar/32/415435_2.png) [@Shuckstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shuckstar)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/21 "2018-05-23T07:34:19Z")
■■■■ nope ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/22 "2018-05-23T08:05:13Z")
> [@Gaius\_Clabbacus](#): > > Been Playing since 2008 (which makes my opinion more relevant than yours). Been playing since beta, which makes my opinion even more relevant than yours. But just like you, I also say no. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/23 "2018-05-23T09:26:02Z")
Even I, as a 3-month old n00b, think this is a terrible idea. ---
**Author:** ![Cygnus\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cygnus_parud/32/75409_2.png) [@Cygnus\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cygnus_Parud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/25 "2018-05-23T11:19:38Z")
Frankly I think we should be able to get a starter package that gives you 20 mil SP and a Titan, for just 14,99 ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/26 "2018-05-23T11:34:32Z")
For the Galaxy starter pack they should throw in a faction station as well, just to sweeten the deal. ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/27 "2018-05-23T12:13:55Z")
Two reasons transferring skill points should cost ISK: 1. CCP earns money by skillextractors being bought. EVE stays alive. ~~2. Skillextractors and -injectors work as ISK-sink, reducing inflation. Reduced Inflation is good.~~ ---
**Author:** ![Nasar\_Vyron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasar_vyron/32/264128_2.png) [@Nasar\_Vyron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasar_Vyron)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/28 "2018-05-24T05:21:03Z")
Please, please, please go look up what an isk sink is. The only thing about extractors/injectors that’s an isk sink are the npc taxes. Fixing inflation a few isk at a time. There have been a few things good that have come from injectors, an isk sink isn’t one of them. And regardless, they have done far more damage than good to the health of this game. That’s is just a fact. Other sources of revenue could have been found, selling SP was just the easiest most lazy answer to their problem. Hell, selling accelerators would have been less damaging and still insanely popular at a reasonable price point. They could even have something like that be a variable rate based on your current SP such that new characters get more out of it than say higher SP - or not - if that’s something they wanted to do. Other ideas for income that don’t even effect gameplay that have been suggested elsewhere many times: - Colored engine trails/effects - Hangar decoration - Different hangars entirely - Custom skins/slots (let people pay you to design it themselves) ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_Wraith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spectre_wraith/32/491396_2.png) [@Spectre\_Wraith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spectre_Wraith)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/29 "2018-05-24T06:46:52Z")
Absolutely not. If you want those skillpoints on a character, stop training one and train the other. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/30 "2018-05-24T16:35:04Z")
> [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](#): > > > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > > Because he wants stuff for free instead of coughing up the ISKies. > > i thought the same but i am interessted in what he really think and IF he thinks > its the same bulls\*\*\* as the guy who postet he wants alpha clone skilling on 2nd char on his omega account .. 1st char should be omega skilling .. > > [Omega Should Include Alpha for FREE aswell](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omega-should-include-alpha-for-free-aswell/76645) > > somethimes i am just interessted IF and WHAT this guys think .. sometimes > > JuuR Those are 2 different topics. This thread is about transferring SP’s from one Omega character to another on the same account for free. Something I don’t agree with. The other thread is about unskilled characters on an Omega account getting the same skill points that Alpha characters get for free. Something I agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/31 "2018-05-24T16:58:44Z")
> [@Nasar\_Vyron](#): > > Please, please, please go look up what an isk sink is. The only thing about extractors/injectors that’s an isk sink are the npc taxes. Fixing inflation a few isk at a time. But remember, skill extraction and inject can be a skillpoint sink. If you extract 500,000 for an injector but I use it on a character with 80 mil SP, I only get a fraction of that 500,000. So we need those sinks just like we need isk sinks. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/32 "2018-05-24T17:27:34Z")
Damn I hope eve doesnt go the way of these mobile and wow games. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/33 "2018-05-24T18:15:54Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/f/cf8811aa7c28863982ae18c265ed2cc5fa5c6bb4.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Nasar\_Vyron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasar_vyron/32/264128_2.png) [@Nasar\_Vyron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasar_Vyron)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/34 "2018-05-24T18:18:45Z")
No we don’t lol We never did at any point in this game’s history or even now. What sense does it make to even say that SP must be lost from the game? The only reason SP is flooding into the game is due to the existence of sp farms which exist because of… oh right, extractors. The entire reason that DR exists is because CCP wanted to target new players with this to help them, yet [Malcanis’ Law](https://outofcake.wordpress.com/2012/12/10/malcanis-law/) rears it’s ugly head again. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/35 "2018-05-24T18:25:45Z")
We had skill sinks for quite some time. Do you not remember the old clone system? If you did not upgrade your clone and then died, you lost skill poits. It was a sink. You could escape it by paying into an isk sink but if you forget, it was an SP sink. Also, T3 skills are an SP sink. If you die on a T3 ship, you lose SP. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/36 "2018-05-24T18:27:54Z")
> [@Stash\_Montoya](#): > > We paid for these skill points, so … … so we should be able to get our money back, too. … so we should be able to exchange them for food & drink. … so we should be able to use our skills points to pay phone bills. … so we should be able to use them in our retirement plan. … so we should be able to get interest paid back. … so we should be able to pass them to our children with our will. … so we should be able to park anywhere on CCP’s property. … so we should be able to live in CCP’s buildings. Am I doing it right? ![Snowhite%20CCP](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/3/e347becf1d879d6e0d4c0b93d05d90b4802eb98b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nasar\_Vyron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasar_vyron/32/264128_2.png) [@Nasar\_Vyron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasar_Vyron)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/37 "2018-05-24T18:29:00Z")
That wasn’t really their purpose. It was a punishment for not paying the death tax, that’s why they removed it because all it did was deter people form taking part in pvp. One of the better moves they’ve ever made along side the skill queue for making playing more enjoyable. I will give it to you that it was indeed a sink, but not that it was ever needed. Just like T3C should have never and still shouldn’t cause a loss in SP. But at least T3C only remove sp from their quickly trains subsystem skills, not carrier 5. ---
**Author:** ![Coleidra\_Harkonnen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coleidra_harkonnen/32/70626_2.png) [@Coleidra\_Harkonnen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coleidra_Harkonnen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/38 "2018-05-24T18:33:20Z")
I might be missing something, but you do not agree to freely transfer SP aquired with the current rules, but you agree to give somehow faster training by giving an alpha character to an omega account ? There is some wrong logic here… Or at least a logic I’m missing… Transfering SP between characters on the same account is almost the same as switching which character you are training (only difference is that it doesn’t take time), and you don’t like it. But giving faster training (to some extent) is ok… You do not like the “little” change, but want a big one… Sorry, but I don’t get it. To come back on topic, tranfering SP between characters on the same account for free could be interesting, but only if there is the same SP sink as the skill injectors… And only from the higher SP character to the lower one. This way, you cannot train a new toon on alpha account to 5M SP for free, and then transfer to your main when re-subbing your account to omega. This way, it may work (if I’m not missing something, of course). ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/39 "2018-05-24T19:45:52Z")
You need to read more carefully. I never said anything about giving an Alpha character to an Omega account for free. Nor did I say anything about having faster training time. Transferring SP’s from one character to another should definitely require a fee because it can easily be exploited by switching SP’s around from one character to another and then back again into a different skill group. The other thread is about how unskilled characters on an Alpha account get 5 mill SP’s for free whereas unskilled characters on an Omega account have to pay for those same skill points. ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/40 "2018-05-24T19:48:39Z")
@DeMichael_Crimson yea 2 different things but the same bullsh\*\*\* idea … as allways … JuuR ---
**Author:** ![Coleidra\_Harkonnen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coleidra_harkonnen/32/70626_2.png) [@Coleidra\_Harkonnen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coleidra_Harkonnen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703/41 "2018-05-24T20:06:08Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > The other thread is about how unskilled characters on an Alpha account get 5 mill SP’s for free whereas unskilled characters on an Omega account have to pay for those same skill points. So I think my reading was ok, but probably not my way to explain (sorry, English is only my second language). Anyway, this is not the good topic to discuss this point. Regarding SP transfer, it should definately get some restrictions to avoid exploit such as transfering back and forth. That’s why I mentionned that it should only be from the highest SP character to the lowest. The SP transfered may not come back on the original character. It can be a way to correct some mistakes made during your early days in Eve and reuse some of the SP on a lower SP character. On the other hand, I’m not sure I really like the idea. When you make mistakes, you have to live with it… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-are-a-omgea-clone-we-should-be-able-to-transfer-skill-points-to-another-character-on-your-account-for-free-this-would-be-good-for-players-who-all-ready-paid-for-thoes-skill-points/77703.md?page=3)